Plumber who wants to become Gas Safe

[Barry98]

thirsty hmm ish depends what you compare it to , however last year when we had the bad snow i was turning work down for weeks if not months because other gas men in there weeeee vans couldn't get no where near them ,so the extra fuel cost was covered it is very practical mine personally is not noisy or slow hence why ive been using it since mid November and i do get allot of repeat bossiness cos they know i will get there and if not then no one else defo wont be able to . also i have mi lpg so do get to go down a lot of dirt tracks etc

 

[Billy Bob Bob]

well i am not quite sure there?.

i have all my gear (almost) loaded into the freelander and been using it since mid december. it has the benefit of the two rear doors to gain access to tools etc without climbing through the tail gate.

i am concidering the 110 in the future but like to ask bod if it is practicle for day to day use?.
i used to have a mate who used a 90' and was happy doing install and break downs but found it thirsty slow and noisey?##

have you got the freelander van redsaw or the lwb?as i have the rover i know the bmw diesel engine is a cracker and it has been 100% reliable so if possible i would stay with what i know

 

[kirkgas]

isthat 26 weeks of day release or 26 weeks of 5 x 8 hours, which would seem to be taking rather a long time to cover the basics

26 weeks full time, (35hrs per week) everything is taken slow and steady 16 weeks, theory and 10 weeks on the tools building portfolio, placement is spread out throughout course to allow a mix of both rather than all theory then placement, remember this is the foundation course for people who havent done gas before, its an unusual comment to hear they are getting extra training, rather than being rushed through, which TBH i think 3 weeks is, i cannot imagine getting people through all gas basics in 3 weeks,

 

[SafeGasInstall]

26 weeks full time lol,how do they do there portfolio in college ???taking old one out and putting new one in (boiler and parts)???/
can you give us more info as it is very interesting to me about the portfolio,and the theory 16 weeks???lol

and who can afford to do 26 weeks training,i mean what age are the people doing it ??

and how is it possible to people who are not cat 2 to do gas ?

kirkgas please tell us more !!!

regards stan

 

[oldplumber]

My experience of the full time courses compared to day release is that the full timers were the lads who had no aprenticeships and spent 4/5 days a week covering what the day release trainees did in 1 day. I have ranted about some of the short course providers in the past but only because they were seemingly to profit orientated. The 6129s and nvq courses I did as a day release could easily have been completed in one 2 years and not the 4 it took, mainly because he tutors often just said read this and went off for 1-2 hours. At least 5 days each year were spent on admin or waiting for term to end. The actual knowledge involved or required for the gas side is easily learnt in 3 weeks if the pupils and lecturers are willing to buckle down and get on with it. Too much time on these courses is spent fannying around with the youngsters pratting about, so if the short course providers can do it in 3 weeks I cant see any reason why a mature and willing student cant get it all done an dusted and get more out of it. What the lea/local colleges etc need to do is relook at how hey provide the training and take on he profit orientated providers and beat them at therir own game. If they dont they wont have any students in the long term as the government aint going to carryon picking up he tab, theyll just privatise it all!.

 

[kirkgas]

26 weeks full time lol,how do they do there portfolio in college ???taking old one out and putting new one in (boiler and parts)???/
can you give us more info as it is very interesting to me about the portfolio,and the theory 16 weeks???lol

and who can afford to do 26 weeks training,i mean what age are the people doing it ??

and how is it possible to people who are not cat 2 to do gas ?

kirkgas please tell us more !!!

regards stan

they dont do their portfolio in college or training centre, as i said they do 10 weeks on placement with a gas contractor, building up their portfolio during the 26 weeks, cooker installs are the only thing done in the training centre as a lot of contractors dont fit cookers,
age of candidates rangre from early 20's to late 50's, some pay privately, and some are funded by the DWP, a lot of them do a 2nd job to assist their income, not sure how they can do the course but it is run by bpec and fully authenticated, what else do you want to know, not knocking you personally, but to cover all gas foundation in 3 weeks doesnt leave a lot of time to go through things, i would love to sit in on a couple of classes, what sort of workshop time do you do in the 3 weeks

 

[SafeGasInstall]

if i remember correct it was 1/3 in work shop 2/3 in class !!!!

training center called able skills ,you can google it ,what is the name of your college?

 

[SafeGasInstall]

it took me 1 year to do my portfolio ,and become fully confident to go back for assessment i took my time,cos i wanted when get reg with gas safe to be confident to work on my own !