Press fit purchase, possibly rothenberger

[FA25]

Yeah they are quite pricey so select jobs get the privilege. William's stock them but I find Harris & baileys slightly cheaper, depends on brand of fittings. Although William's stock gas fittings on shelf whereas others is on a next day order.
When using them you have to be aware once pressed you cant undo it like soldered, so the measure twice & cut once principle should be followed or they will really be expensive

 

[Riley]

Yeah they are quite pricey so select jobs get the privilege. William's stock them but I find Harris & baileys slightly cheaper, depends on brand of fittings. Although William's stock gas fittings on shelf whereas others is on a next day order.
When using them you have to be aware once pressed you cant undo it like soldered, so the measure twice & cut once principle should be followed or they will really be expensive

What do Williams stock. Sorry that’s useful to know

 

[JasetheMace]

What do Williams stock. Sorry that’s useful to know

Xpress fittings, water and gas next day

 

[Riley]

Useful to know. Anyone got an opinion of them quality wise compared to Mapress??

 

[ShaunCorbs]

There ok you can tell why there’s a price difference

 

[Riley]

Just less tidy or not such a nice finish

 

[JasetheMace]

Hi guys, so I have been using the xpress fittings and the rothenberger machine and I noticed the fittings can be twisted on some joints, does this break the integrity of the join or is it perfectly fine to twist it?

 

[Deleted member 96286]

Hi guys, so I have been using the xpress fittings and the rothenberger machine and I noticed the fittings can be twisted on some joints, does this break the integrity of the join or is it perfectly fine to twist it?

I've been using a REMS machine for about 6 months now and it's really good. I use XPress fittings and I haven't had one single fitting turning on me, in fact quite the opposite and they've stayed securely fitted with heavy valves on the copper tails going into the fittings. However I have came across these fittings in public buildings and some can rotate. Perhaps it's the machine needing serviced to crimp the fittings more tightly? You should contact Rothenberger for advice mate.

 

[JasetheMace]

I've been using a REMS machine for about 6 months now and it's really good. I use XPress fittings and I haven't had one single fitting turning on me, in fact quite the opposite and they've stayed securely fitted with heavy valves on the copper tails going into the fittings. However I have came across these fittings in public buildings and some can rotate. Perhaps it's the machine needing serviced to crimp the fittings more tightly? You should contact Rothenberger for advice mate.

It is only when the fittings setup allows good leverage meaning it is easier to twist, the machine is fine, just wandering if i do twist, will this destroy the tightness of the fitting? Might pressure test it to find out!

 

[ShaunCorbs]

It is only when the fittings setup allows good leverage meaning it is easier to twist, the machine is fine, just wandering if i do twist, will this destroy the tightness of the fitting? Might pressure test it to find out!

depends how far less than a 1/8th of a turn your should be fine ive just re pressed it again to make sure still holding at 3 bar (geberit fittings)

 

[Deleted member 96286]

It is only when the fittings setup allows good leverage meaning it is easier to twist, the machine is fine, just wandering if i do twist, will this destroy the tightness of the fitting? Might pressure test it to find out!

It won't do anything to the pressure. Someone on here pressure tested the fittings to 5bar crimped only without the o ring I remember from a previous post. None of my fittings have ever rotated after pressing, but I have came across rotating fittings in older installations that have been installed for some time and they are absolutely fine.

 

[Jerry]

I have the Geberit machine and technically, the jaws have to be calibrated annually. Maybe this could be something to do with the rotation problem.

I have hand crimping tools from Buteline and then have a crimp guage and the ability to adjust the jaw clamps.

 

[Deleted member 96286]

I really like the simplicity of pressing fittings and on a job today surrounded by expensive timber, it saved a headache in trying to solder, plus it's much quicker.
Downside is that it's often difficult to get the gun into tight spaces and fittings have to be carefully planned out.
I like using non rotating XPress fittings alongside Copper Tectite Sprint fittings which are copper pushfits and can allow the pipe to rotate in the fitting. This often makes it easier to get the Akku Press in for the XPress fittings.
The biggest bonus is just how neat and thoroughly good looking a towel radiator install is when using XPress chrome fittings, plus the chrome fittings press directly on to chrome pipe without the need for scribing or filing.
It's very rare now that I have to solder and much prefer XPress and Tectite for speed, simplicity and neatness. They're much neater than those big ugly white plastic pushfits, but I'll use these too if the situation on the job calls for it.
My next investment is a much lighter and more compact press gun than the very heavy and bulky Akku Press.

 

[Anglia Pipe Tools Ltd]

1. Yes specific fittings for each
2. M jaws work on mapress, sanha and xpress take a look at Pipework Systems | Pipes | Fitting | Valves | Pipekit and use their live chat. Their people are experts on what works with what.
3. Shop around mate. I got mine second hand but is mint apart from a bit of dust
4. Depends where you are mate, some places stick them all the time. Maybe phone round. I usually have to overnight mine using the people above.
5.cant help you line is novopress
6. Mine was about £110 inc vat and 4 jaws

FYI All second hand press tools need calibrating