Repairing taps at back of bath.

[Aire]

Hi guys,
Went to look at a job yesterday where some tenants have been removed for not looking after the house. One of the things they've done and I don't know how is snapped the backnuts on the bath tap (deck mixer) so the tap just pulls out the holes. The taps are in the worst place possible at the back of the bath in a recess against an outside wall. Customer does not under any circumstances want the taken out, which leaves me the only option of sticking the taps down, which lets face it will last all of 10 minutes. The only positive I guess is as the bath wasn't pre drilled, the holes are nice and tight to the threads so only movement really is up and down. Apart from ct1 can anyone recommend an alternative. It's not really something I want to do but its more of a favour for a friend than anything.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

What’s the wall with the taps on ?

 

[centralheatking]

Hi guys,
Went to look at a job yesterday where some tenants have been removed for not looking after the house. One of the things they've done and I don't know how is snapped the backnuts on the bath tap (deck mixer) so the tap just pulls out the holes. The taps are in the worst place possible at the back of the bath in a recess against an outside wall. Customer does not under any circumstances want the taken out, which leaves me the only option of sticking the taps down, which lets face it will last all of 10 minutes. The only positive I guess is as the bath wasn't pre drilled, the holes are nice and tight to the threads so only movement really is up and down. Apart from ct1 can anyone recommend an alternative. It's not really something I want to do but its more of a favour for a friend than anything.

My advice is to take charge, you are the expert here. replacement deck mixers are buttons. And dead easy to secure even if you can only get to the nearest side put a bit of sillycone under the tap body
Strong Plumbers hands will get the affair most of the way then a basin wrench will do the rest. Whats the bath plastic crap cast or pressed steel ...? Your job is to take charge and not be led on a little job like this....centralheatking

 

[king of pipes]

Like your thinking Shaun I have removed brick and block work to replace a set of bath taps from outside . Kop

 

[firemant]

The taps are in the worst place possible at the back of the bath in a recess against an outside wall.

Are these taps at the end of the bath, or on the side?

FWIW, i have come across a LOT of plastic back nits which have split.

 

[wrxsti265]

My advice, your the professional, do the job the way you want to do it or not at all. Once you have put your name to that job it’s you that has to guarantee it.

 

[Aire]

What’s the wall with the taps on ?

Taps are against the outside wall

 

[Aire]

Are these taps at the end of the bath, or on the side?

FWIW, i have come across a LOT of plastic back nits which have split.

In the middle on the long edge of the bath, every plumbers nightmare, and while yes the backnuts could have split, the old tenants, didnt pay the rent, smashed the wardrobes and put holes through the doors too so she believes it's deliberate.

 

[centralheatking]

If the tap end of the bath is accessible its easy , we need a piccy
Cornwall not as battered as the BBC predicted..ok just read your latest..that is a bummer..but the tennants deposit will be void
so dont be too sorry ...they the owner should be insured as well ..new bath etc...its not your position to subsiduse the owner
just quote to get it back in order quick time then they can let it again
very soon...thats the name if the game.
centralheatking

 

[Aire]

Like your thinking Shaun I have removed brick and block work to replace a set of bath taps from outside . Kop

A headache to do but its an option

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Taps are against the outside wall

Start taking a few bricks out externally

 

[Aire]

If the tap end of the bath is accessible its easy , we need a piccy
Cornwall not as battered as the BBC predicted

No piccy, but here a diagram, nothing easy about it

 

[Last Plumber]

I would agree with Shaun.
Tackle it from outside and take the existing bricks out (carefully so they can go back) to gain access.

 

[Aire]

Start taking a few bricks out externally

Yep might be the only option

 

[Last Plumber]

Yep might be the only option

I wouldn't price it though!
I'm afraid that kind of work is charged by the hour and it takes as long as it takes to do it well and make it good afterwards.
The only other option would be to ask a bricky to remove and replace them and you just do the Plumbing.

 

[Aire]

I wouldn't price it though!
I'm afraid that kind of work is charged by the hour and it takes as long as it takes to do it well and make it good afterwards.
The only other option would be to ask a bricky to remove and replace them and you just do the Plumbing.

I may get her to get a bricky to remove the bricks, as she's a friend and it's a favour I want to be doing as little work as possible.

 

[Ben-gee]

If it’s a deck mixer with a large area in contact with bath...

Could bend 22 copper with tap connector soldered on; lie it down, push to back then rotate up to tap holes.

Connect to tap, stixall the mixer to the bath. Then have 22 clips attached to batten which you slide under bath and screw to floor.

Then you’ll have clipped 22 at the front of the bath which should be able to join up to existing.

I actually think this would work..... but bricks out is a more definite solution.....

 

[Deleted member 96286]

Cut a section out from the wall in the next room to gain access to the taps. Replace the cut out section with a pipe access panel.
Normally a table or some other piece of furniture will cover the access panel, if the customer doesn't want it on view.

 

[Deleted member 96286]

Once you have gained access to the taps, you can fit tap shrouds to the bath. Basically the tap sits inside the shrouds and is fixed with an Allen key screw. It's easy to unfasten the screw and remove the bath tap for maintenance.
I fit these every time that the customer wants taps installed in the middle of the bath at the back wall. You'll need two long flexies to allow the tap to be removed.

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[Stu-B]

Cut a section out from the wall in the next room to gain access to the taps. Replace the cut out section with a pipe access panel.
Normally a table or some other piece of furniture will cover the access panel, if the customer doesn't want it on view.
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I think it’s against an outside wall mate.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Brass back nuts and a plastic washer or a piece or alu if it’s a plastic one

Never had a loose one yet

 

[Deleted member 32524]

Think I would be telling them the bath needs taken out and put back in. It is a smaller easier job than coming in through the brickwork, surely?

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Think I would be telling them the bath needs taken out and put back in. It is a smaller easier job than coming in through the brickwork, surely?

Depends tiling might need to be removed then if you break any and there coloured could end up re tiling

 

[Ben-gee]

Think I would be telling them the bath needs taken out and put back in. It is a smaller easier job than coming in through the brickwork, surely?

A tight bath in a three sided recess? Gonna loose some tiles.

Only chance is lower all feet down and push bath down then slide it out, but with bog and basin where they are- not much chance.

 

[Aire]

Thanks for responses guys, seems like the only option to do it properly is bricks out. I can't remove the bath without breaking the tiles and the customer simply won't have that, if it was a random customer I'd walk away but you know what friends are like . I was hoping there maybe some kind of miracle adhesive out there that bonds solid but it's not looking likely. I'll have to go back and tell her it's bricks out or nothing. Thanks again.