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Next time i go to the scrap yd im going top tell them im a rag and bone man and no fixed address and see what they say or if anyone does this before me, let all on here know.
 
Phil said:
End of an era......... never again will I leave a scrappie with a fist full of dirty twentys and stuff them in my back pocket. :disappointed:
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And you'll never see that look on the bar maid's face again that says - that's a fiver? I've picked up less minging snotty hankies.
 
This is most depressing. I have a nice stockpile of copper and lead that I was planning to take in next week for Christmas drinks. Gutted.
 
I'l just get my dad to go anyway, they'll give him a personal cheque and I'll get the readys off him or am I missing something?
 
Phil said:
I'l just get my dad to go anyway, they'll give him a personal cheque and I'll get the readys off him or am I missing something?
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Yes a good idea as my dad has offered too but they might still have tax liability with pensions other income etc.
 
from inland revenue:
Mistakes are often made when recording sales if:

  • you take stock for personal or family consumption
  • you supply goods or services to someone else in return for goods or services - barter transactions
Even if you don't record these transactions through a till you still need to keep a record of them. You should note down the goods or services taken or supplied and their normal retail price, and your business profits must be worked out using this value.

So we can not take the copper out of the business without it being sold to ourselves and we cant bartor in anyway for it "I swapped the copper with my wife for a snog" doesnt count as you have to pay for the snog!!!

So were we allowed to do it before, answer NO. are we now being policed, YES.

I am so confused though "no fixed abode" = pikey that has just stolen that lead off a church roof
 
if you think we have got it bad, take a look at what the scrappies now have to do,

license to take scrap, license to get rid of scrap, keep records of dealings, police have right to enter and inspect property, buying scrap for cash is now an offence, display license, verify suppliers identity, if unlicensed they will be shut down.

So why is it the wrong people being punished for these pikees causing trouble.
 
on the news they did say, "there is loop holes that need addressing and will be addressed in next few months"
 
Once again the beurocrats have shafted us. I guess we should all jack in the plumbing game and join the likes of Starbucks, Amazon and google who get away with paying nothing into our system for years.

I guess the next time I call at my accountants I will have a choice of going through the green or red door. Anything to declare sir? Yes, one copper cylinder and a heat exchanger... :hand:

Next thing will be the scrappie having to deduct VAT from the funds we receive. Rant Over!
 
how do you think the scrappies would do if we all didnt go in for a year?
 
what will be the charge to have the money paid into your account? i can also see it being taxed soon, just another sly way of pretending to protect the thieves from stealing church lead with a convenient spin off to tax the honest working man.
 
basically the new law does not apply to gypsies!!!

why they cant take vehicle reg's number is a breach of human rights so a counselor tells me!!!!!


i am going to stock pile it and take it every 2 years and get a holiday out of it, well my 19 year old student daughter is going too.lol
 
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Am I right saying that now is not the best time to weigh in though as prices will alter in the scrappies favour the nearer to xmas it get's and what is the chances they will actually follow the audit trail from the scrappy to your books. I bet if you put a little through and get some in "her indoors's" name you'd still be able to pull the wool over the tax mans eyes UNLESS you are a massive operation ie Pimlico Plumbers.....

i know Red Scar at Preston told me he'd still be paying cash but they do record transactions ect in a proffesional way.....
 
REDSAW said:
how do you think the scrappies would do if we all didnt go in for a year?
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Theyd be doing the same amount of business as some little so and so of a traveling nature would be raiding mine and your garage and flogging it.
 
oh dear, I did not realise and have just taken my scrap to the scrappy. He took my driving license which he did last time but then got me to sign a piece of paper. Which I did not check till just now. which says 'i declare i have the authority to sell''. Bummer. Surely he should have asked me if I have a License?
 
Anyone know of any solutions to this yet? I guess as I was not caught carrying it, I could just say it was from my house.
 
By the sound of what is mentioned above this is going to have to be declared! Bummer paying 20% of your perks to the taxman now aswell as everything else they just don't know when to BUTT OUT!!!
 
its too late now, the deal has be done!!! And after all the substance abuse i did in my teens i suffer from severe paranoia. So it's going to be sleepless nights for me
 
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