Shower pump help pls

[mattq]

I rent the property where shower uses pump (located under bath) due yo low pressure i guess. Its an old tank-system there, boiler Potterton Suprima 60L.

This pump is very noisy, what to do to make the shower working without the pump, what work needs to be done, and whats the average costs of it, as this pump drives me mad. What other options are possible? Landlady is a very difficult when must spend any money...

Thanks

 

[thereisawizza]

Ask your landlady to get a plumber in for a quote. Her problem, but more importantly from a legal standoint her responsibility and her property.

 

[mattq]

1. I dont think so she will be interested in quoting this job as this is not necessary to rent the property.

2. You gave me simple obvious answer, which is not what i wanted

 

[Dotty]

Afraid it's the only answer at the moment matt. Annoying though the pump may be, if you go making alterations to her property without her consent, you could wind up in the mire.

Would she accept you paying for the work for a reduction in the rent as a compromise?

 

[mattq]

I didnt say i want to do that. I want to bring up the idea, but i need at least an average description what work needs to be taken, and very average costs of it to decide whether theres possiblity of succes in this advantage.

If u told me eg.

1: that must involve a boiler change and extra machine for £xxxxxx,

or

2: its impossible to get rid of the pump as they are still beign used in this kind of 'low water pressure premisses' the only alternative u may get is a bit more expensive quiet pump

Thats the examples of answers i was expecting guys, i dont need advices how to deal or speak to heR

 

[thereisawizza]

Hey, with that attitude, that's probably about the only advice you're liable to get!

You could ask a plumber to give an estimate but any plumber worth his salt would not even be interested in visiting for quotation without owner approval.

 

[SafeGasInstall]

just get new twin impeller pump fitted ...make sure is a good brand ! then when you move out just take it with you !

Google

 

[mattq]

thereisawizza: yeah, right, blame me for my attitude. If u had at least little knowledge you would explain me that straigh away

SafeGasInstall: thanks

I rang some plum company, they imformed me (without coming in and without owners approval) about two options i have:

1. Better Quiet pump
2. Changing whole system and getting rid of tank, that would create something he called 'mega flow', and regulate the water pressure to the right standarts

 

[SafeGasInstall]

just get new pump and get plumber to fit it !

changing system and megaflow -breach of your contract ! landlord will not pay as to expansive option !

keep it simple new pump plumber fit's it no big deal ,you decide to move out plumber put the old one back in place happy days

 

[Dotty]

As SGI says, go in too deep and it'll cost you far too much for a rented property, so the megaflo's out.

Salamander's are fairly decent, quiet and reliable.

CT50 | Salamander Pumps | Quality | Technology | Performance | Value

But get your plumbing company round to take a proper look, we can only give you a rough idea.. A quote will cost you nothing and they'll see better what's actually involved.

 

[mattq]

Ok, i will look for better quiet pump. Thanks for your help guys.

Regards,

M

 

[Stephen@nic]

Hi you can lift the tank in the loft I would charge between 80 to 120 to do this job and doing this will be far cheaper than a new pump and will give you good presure in the house

 

[Stephen@nic]

If you live in or near London let me know I will be happy to look at the job free and if you like I can do the work it is not a big job

 

[SafeGasInstall]

really stephen ,lifting it up 1m how much more pressure will get just 0.1bar

 

[Gray0689]

Hi you can lift the tank in the loft I would charge between 80 to 120 to do this job and doing this will be far cheaper than a new pump and will give you good presure in the house

Your cheap
And unless you can move it a great deal won't make much difference

As croppie already said salamander are not to bad a pump but personally I go for Stuart turner monsoon pumps but the pipework has to be plumbed correct to the pump MIs
I can't see your landlady wanting to do this as the only proplem you seem to have is the pump that's in is too noisy.

There is another option get a shower radio and turn it up loud when your in shower problem solved lol

 

[SafeGasInstall]

There is another option get a shower radio and turn it up loud when your in shower problem solved lol

like this option out of all

 

[mattq]

Stephen: Im not an expert but i dont think that will give good enough pressure..

I think new pump is an option, this eve i will check what pump i got (make and model) and post it here, will be lookin forward for opinions and suggestions.

Gray0689: noise disturbs when people using shower while others are sleeping

 

[Stephen@nic]

as you say you will get 0.1 barper meter but most houses will have .2 to.3 head already so if you lift it up 1 or 2 meters you will have half a bar which will be more than enough and i may be cheap but i work by priceing by the dayand 120 a dayis a fairprice. the other option that no one has said is you could fir a elc shower this will cost a bit more but you will have no noise. no matter wot pump you use you wil get nois and pumps all have a shelf life were as if you lift the tank this will last for ever.

 

[SimonG]

New pump might only be a temp resolution as crap pipework might be the reason for the existing pump being noisy. As said above check the pump you get will be ok for your pipework set up or your brand new pump could end up being just as noisy!

 

[mattq]

just checked the pump, its actually Salamander pump;/

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ps: stephen: you lift the tank, what about the hot water which is not heated/stored on the loft level...?

 

[PlumbBobBob]

i can see why it could be noisy. two of the flexi pipes are kinked restricting the flow. as for lifting the tank in respect of the hot water cylinder, the head of water is from the cold water cistern in the loft. the higher the cws the higher the bar pressure no need to raise the hot cylinder.

 

[SimonG]

Aye not great.

Have you checked the filter washers on the connections to the pump?

 

[mattq]

Havent checked washers, what do u mean by checking them?

 

[SimonG]

Where the flexi connectors connect onto the pump there is a meshed washer for the inlets to keep any crap out of the pump, over time they have a habit of collecting anything and everything. Don't forget to turn the water off first though. Might be perfectly clear, but for the sake of 10 mins can't hurt.

 

[mattq]

ok, ill check that washers tmrw.

Steveb: i tried to move the flexi pipes but the noise did not change even for a sec.

Thanks