Sponsored thread- what pump will be on the back of the van in 2014

[Ray Stafford]

We are just about out of Grundfos 15/50 and 15/60 now, and talking to contacts around the industry, I think everyone is now in the same boat. It took a year longer than expected, but A rated is now the only game in town.

There can't be many plumbers who didn't have one of each of the Grundfos permanently on the van for the last 30 odd years.

Question is - whats going to replace it?

Grundfos Alpha?

Grundfos UPS2?

A cheapo like Circulating Pumps?

Or a newcomer like Lowara?

The Williams & Co buying team discussed this for an hour today before concluding that there would be no winner-takes-all in the sense of the old 15/50 and 15/60 which had such massive market share. We are predicting:

Cheapie 20%
Lowara 20%
Grundfos Alpha 20%
Grundfos UPS2 40%

I'd be interested in your views.

Ray

 

[Killy Bing]

What's your prices for each!!

 

[gassafe]

Whatever is on offer... I only keep the larger 15-60 on the van, one pump,does all then...

 

[southcoastboile]

I brought up my merchants remaining pumps at £20 plus vat each for a bulk buy of 15. When I run out I'm gunna go cheapo. Not sure exactly what yet saw salus at around £70 plus vat for a rated. Grundfoss are to expensive now.

 

[dave1]

The new grendfoss are a complete rip off. Grrr

 

[Ray Stafford]

What's your prices for each!!

From Jan 13th, it will be

Cheapo CP 5m head version, A rated £69.95
Cheapo CP 6m head version, A rated £74.95

Lowara Ecocirc 25-4 A rated, £74.95
Lowara Ecocirc 25-6 A rated, £79.95

Alpha 2L 15/50 £89
Alpha 2L 15/60 £109

Grundfos UPS2 £89.95

 

[Ray Stafford]

all excluding VAT

 

[gassafe]

I brought up my merchants remaining pumps at £20 plus vat each for a bulk buy of 15. When I run out I'm gunna go cheapo. Not sure exactly what yet saw salus at around £70 plus vat for a rated. Grundfoss are to expensive now.

you had a bargain lol!

Not sure about Salus... I can imagine that's a nasty pump... Put the ball in the custards court..., decent grundfos or a cheapo pump!

 

[Ray Stafford]

I brought up my merchants remaining pumps at £20 plus vat each for a bulk buy of 15.

Your merchant was mad to let them go at that price. We are still getting full whack for our last remaining stock of non- A rated.

Result for you though!

 

[Killy Bing]

Lowara i guess, i have a pair on my parents solar set up. No issues yet

 

[PlumbBobBob]

i've just fitted a wilo yonos in my place a the 20+ year old grundfos was starting to get noisy. seems to be ok at the moment.

 

[southcoastboile]

I know, I think it was because they had just got me as a new customer and wanted to show me how cheap they were. I did make the offer though. Now they just shaft me with expensive fittings and the odd part to make up for it. I hate it when merchants are never consistently cheap and try and blag you on things that terms aren't set up on.

 

[tamz]

I buy pumps (among other things) from here
- Antares - For Water and Fire -

I've got to keep the margins up too.

 

[Roger Welton]

Been keeping lowara on board for a while now, whilst saving the last of my stocks of old style pumps for oil combis.

 

[Killy Bing]

I buy pumps (among other things) from here
- Antares - For Water and Fire -

I've got to keep the margins up too.

What the F !!
you kept that little secret to yourself....

 

[TBServices]

How cheap?

 

[Rickster123]

I buy pumps (among other things) from here
- Antares - For Water and Fire -

I've got to keep the margins up too.

Rays now rocking back and forth and mumbling to himself..

 

[Ray Stafford]

Rays now rocking back and forth and mumbling to himself..

No he isn't. But he has emailed that link to the buyer who handles pumps.

Thank Tamzw

 

[Killy Bing]

No he isn't. But he has emailed that link to the buyer who handles pumps.

Thank Tamzw

Dont suppose you want to stock nozzles at sensible prices while you're at it.....
maidstone has got alot of oil boilers around it....

 

[Ray Stafford]

Dont suppose you want to stock nozzles at sensible prices while you're at it.....
maidstone has got alot of oil boilers around it....

No plans to. Once you start on spares there is no going back, and we don't have the expertise.

 

[Killy Bing]

No plans to. Once you start on spares there is no going back, and we don't have the expertise.

Ruining my day here....

 

[Nostrum]

I get a good price on the grundfos alpha 2l which makes them a pound dearer than the ups2, all 15/60. I'll stick with the 2l as I've never had problems with them unlike the ups2.

There seems to be a new pump out every week now jumping on the bandwagon, some are probably tat, some good but you won't know for a year or two so I will let the industry do the testing and maybe move across when I get good reviews.

ray, I've heard that lowera are a bit of a handful when it comes to support etc? Would you agree?

 

[Ray Stafford]

Stick to the knitting.

 

[Nostrum]

Is that the 'I don't really want to answer that question' response or am I missing something?

 

[Nostrum]

And where did my smiley face go? ...