Train 4 Trade Skills

[Iolanda]

I started the course at the beginning of the year, the advisor told me that there was a centre in manchester so I'd arranged to stay with friends.....now it is time for my practical I find out there is no centre in manchester, my nearest is leeds!!! paying for hotels, travel..... it's going to cost a lot!! Does anyone know if you can claim any costs back i don't have that kind of money!!

 

[andyb 1980]

Re: tony bryden from train 4 trade skills

hi truemanufan
can you tell me who told you that you get your travelling and accomodation expences covered please, or who i need to ask about it.
Thanks

 

[Taz]

Re: tony bryden from train 4 trade skills

alright mate ,me personanly would not give them a penny as for getting on a plumbing coarse why not try a local collage from my experiance thats the best option.

 

[LUCIALIA]

They will pay up to £150 per week travel/accommodation expenses

 

[radswilldo]

Re: tony bryden from train 4 trade skills

College course plus 3-4 years training, I would recommend. Remember your first year will be spent being a joey.

 

[davius74]

train 4 trade skills scam

i am currently doing a plumbing course with t4ts .i was told when i took the course there was a shortage of 70,000 plumbers in the uk . is this correct? .i have heard the plumbing trade is overflowing at the moment . ihave been to see a lawyer and he has asked me to get as much info as i can on t4ts .is anyone else doing this course and think its a rip off ?. the price of the course was £3950 which i pay £110 per month i have been paying since 01/12/2008

 

[newbie1]

Re: train 4 trade skills scam

no there is no 70000 skills shortage as this is being shamelessly exploited but i fear you are way too late to get any financial refund

 

[davius74]

Re: train 4 trade skills scam

i still have £2700 to pay i just want the course canceled to save me that £2700

 

[Mario 1]

Re: train 4 trade skills scam

Shortage of 70,000?

No way, this is a recession we're in.

 

[david williams]

Re: train 4 trade skills scam

there never was an immediate shortage of plumbers ,it was an estimated shortfall of 30,000 over 10 years and did not take into account the reccesion,you were lied to if you were told 70,000,did you get this in writing,

 

[davius74]

Re: train 4 trade skills scam

never got it in writing it was the salesman that told me this

 

[Malhi]

I recently enroled on T4TS an have found out that a certain amount of money should b paid before going to the 1st practical and then the ful course fee must b paid before doing all other practicals..im going to cancel my agreement.can any1 suggest a good course to go through as i have no time to go college and these are the only courses im able to do..

 

[cass]

t4t skills

Hi there i am 2 months in to t4t skills domestic plumbing L2. Read good and bad comments about t4t skills on forum. I was then dissapointed to find out that i could not start the first week of practical training until i had paid the first 1300 pounds of cource fees my foult for not reading small print well enough.My qestion is does anyone know if you have to pay anymore fees before tou can do rest of practical.

 

[LUCIALIA]

Re: t4t skills

news to me.....

 

[cass]

Re: t4t skills

I never realised until i read small print you have to pay 1300 pounds before tou can sit the practical side of the course.I phoned up t4t skills and they said yes i would have to i explained that you promote the course so you can work at own pace,how can you work at your own pace if its going to take 13 months to pay the 1300 aftrerall this is the point of funding.I also asked if i would have to pay the rest of the course fees before i could sit rest of practical she said i wouldent.The reason i asked on forum if anyone knew about this is because this is not the first time they have twisted the truth and was looking for second appinion.

 

[kathryn89]

Re: tony bryden from train 4 trade skills

i joined the course in febuary of this year after a pushy salesman visited me,
after reading views from others i have now decided dont want to do the course, i have never started never even opened a book,
after being refused my money back even after finding a fault with the contract i am now appealing to anyone who has actually managed to cancel to tell me how they did it!
failing that i would like anyone in the same boat as me to come forth!! as being advised by a lawyer a group of unhappy customers would have more impact than just 1!!

 

[seanbrooks]

Re: t4t skills

I noticed right away in the text, you should've read the whole thing before signing anything.

 

[andymc]

Re: t4t skills

I had to wait too, although i was sure it was only £1000, have heard of people going on 3rd and 4th week without having to have paid a set amount.
Looking forward to my second week, really enjoyed my first week.
The centres are in Featherstone and Southampton only, but they do give you up to 30 quid per day for digs, after you send them the receipts.

 

[rfvpatlttp]

Re: train4 trade skills new starter

OK. Getting on with it now, turns out seeing has I have already sat and passed the City & Guilds 6022 and 6032 with Plumbing Skills I don't have to retake them with Train4Trades after all. Come on, who lied?

All of Train4TradeSkills Domestic Plumbing & Heating, Section 1 Part A, modules 1-4 complete.

TMA 1 (Plumbing Induction) to 3 (Common Plumbing Processes)marked and passed (had to resubmit TMA2 (Health and Safety) but all now 100%) TMA 4 (Key Plumbing Principles) results pending.

Received online training codes after TMA2 and TMA3, did the Induction, took the Health & Safety test and passed all sections.
Section 2- PPE
Section 3- Safety signs
Section 5- Hazardous substances
Section 6- Working at heights
Section 7- Basic First-aid.

Scenario 2 Correctly identified the video sequences that represented both safe and unsafe situations. (What on earth was she thinking? carrying that heavy gas bottle in one hand by herself and holding the fire door open with a fire extinguisher......... Jeeeez!)

Passed Online module 3.
Section 2-Jointing Methods,
Section 3-Materials & Tools,
Section 4-The Soldering Process.
Questions 1-15 all answered correctly.

Scenario 3 Interactive Soldering - Took a couple attempts to get use to the online system timings for applying solder and then waiting enough time to remove excess solder with the wet rag but passed all parts:
Flux Application 1-4,
Part Assembly 5,
Applying Heat 6-7,
Applying Solder 8 -9.

Passed Online module 4.
Section 2- Bending - The Basics,
Section 3- 90 Degree Bends,
Section 4- Offset Bends,
Section 5- Kickover Bends,
Section 6- Passover Bends.
Questions 1-15 all answered correctly.

Scenario 4 Interactive Pipe Bending - Correctly identified steps 1-8 for bending copper tube, arranged video sequence in correct order.

Interactive 3D Simulation cd. Scenario 1 :-
i. Correctly identified the cause of the water leak from the CWSC overflow pipe and repaired the Ball valve.
ii. Completed full system check of cold water supply
iii. Identified faulty Stopcock and replaced it.
iv. entered completion code online and received activation code for senario 2.

Studying R D Treloar Plumbing and JTL Plumbing Text books, waiting for the results of TMA4 and the arrival of the next set of modules.

 

[lauramo]

Re: tony bryden from train 4 trade skills

i joined the course in febuary of this year after a pushy salesman visited me,
after reading views from others i have now decided dont want to do the course, i have never started never even opened a book,
after being refused my money back even after finding a fault with the contract i am now appealing to anyone who has actually managed to cancel to tell me how they did it!
failing that i would like anyone in the same boat as me to come forth!! as being advised by a lawyer a group of unhappy customers would have more impact than just 1!!

Hi Kathryn

I got out the contract- did you receive the 2nd copy?

If not then contact the ombudsman

 

[Renewable M]

Re: tony bryden from train 4 trade skills

Training is a difficult one.

I took a lad on out of grimsby college, distinctions in everything, distinction in his practical. Great thought me!!!!

Not. Day one, gave him a bucket of scrap to sort out, and he couldnt adjust grips, then held the grips and spanner the wrong way around.....

I saw all his college paperwork too.

 

[rfvpatlttp]

Re: train4 trade skills new starter

TMA 4 (Key Plumbing Principles) now marked and passed 100%

Train4TradeSkills Domestic Plumbing & Heating, Section 1 Part b
Modules 5, 6 and 7 have now arrived along with a new TMA cd.

Module 5 - Cold Water Systems.
Module 6 - Domestic Hot Water Systems.
Module 7 - Cold & Hot Water Systems and Components.

Can't wait to get stuck in

 

[rfvpatlttp]

Re: train4 trade skills new starter

Module 5 - Cold Water Systems completed.
TMA 5 submitted last week and returned marked today with new access code for the next assignment -
Module 6 - Domestic Hot Water Systems.

Downloaded Domestic Heating revision software from learnatrade.co.uk at the weekend, already had the Plumbing Revision software from last year.

 

[graythedon]

Re: train 4 trade skills scam

HI all

im in the same boat as you same people same sales pitch and same amount for the course.

iv done a little training but after time it becomes more fustratung than its worth.

i believe you have several modules to complete at the end of each section, i did these but after getting the awnsers back i noticed that information in the actual book was incorrect and at times conflicted with what it had said at the begining of a chapter, i tried to speak to the tutors but no luck i got a e-mail reply saying some of the information in the book was incorrect at time of priniting and new info was on the web site. (pay £110 a month for wrong information)
long story short i had a look at the T&C's of the credit agreement and it states if they default on service or in goods they provied we are able to cancel the credit agreement and claim our money back as well as sue T4T's

as we will be dealing with the credit company and not the training company (two diffrent companys) this is the only way i feel we can get out of this. let me know what you think. ( i joined t4t sep last year )

 

[david williams]

Re: train 4 trade skills scam

a lot of plumbing companies ar going out of business at the moment,there is no shortage of fully trained and experienced plumbers ,but there is a glut of half trained plumbers all certificates and no experience.those companies who are takeing on plumbers can pick and chose who they employ.most look for at least four years post training experience.this is because it is so cut throat now they can not afford to take on people whom they will have to continue to train,they need people who can do the job fully ,and are not constantly needing advice on how to do the job.some of the training companies are now also going out of buisiness.i would like to know how many of the plumbers trained by these companies actualy find work after training.good training is worth every penny you spend on it, but when you see the claims of these companies 100% pass rate gaureteed you have to wonder how this is acheived,and at what cost to standerds.you can not train a plumber in 2/6/12/25 weeks ,plumbing companies know this that is why they look for post training experience.