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I pay the bloke who cuts my grass and hedges £15 per hour. (cash in hand).

I'm not dreaming, I'm not full of ****.

I would not work for £12 per hour. I have to pay insurance, course fees, tool depreciation, advertising and tax. As well as registration fees with various bodies.

I would not work for £12 per hour. It's an insult. My mrs is a nanny, and baby sitters earn £10 an hour. That's 18 year old kids.

This is crazy.


i pay the guy who washes my wheely bin £1.50 for about 3mins work that is equal to £30ph but isnt a good comparison, we need not get to rude about plumbers wages, the union rate is about £12ph books in, so that is the rate it is deemed enough to pay a plumber, talk of £20-25 is for self employed and not relevant, as the real earning of many SE people is less than £10ph by the time they do all the unpaid work and pay their expenses. £12ph books in with a fully fueled van mobile phone, 40hrs money for whatever work they actually get done 6 weeks holiday plus public holidays starts to look like a good deal for a lot of SE people

When put that I suppose so.

I wonder what the customer gets charged per hour...as they have to pay for all that and also the profit the firm wants to make on top?

the big firm i used to work for paid £12-14 ph and said they needed to charge at least £27-28ph to cover their base line costs (van hol pay pension, sick pay allance etc) anything over was profit, but it was based on large turn over of hours
 
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It does seem having to add on at least 100% over base line costs is a bit high.

In effect are they being as efficient as they might be in keeping these costs down?

Its only to expected I suppose, that if companies are making say 10% profit over base cost all the time, then they are not going to be too worried over running costs if all they have to do is pass any increases on to the customer.

It just means they still keep their 10%.

In my experience though you never find out how much a company makes or how they work out how much they make, they are usually very secretive about these things.

And lets be frank, you could charge the company a £1 million a year for your wages declaring them as running costs and not profit.

And a good accountant could get your tax bill down to virtually copper's.

Always surprises me, that it seems those that pay the least to the state taxes seem to moan the most about those who are supported by the state.

A boss I worked for was offered £60ph for insurance work. But what if the insurance company had stuck out for £30ph, still good money at the time?

The customer however, who paid £60ph out of his cover would not get much value for say £6,000 cover if it was taken out at £60ph. If they where charged at £30ph the same cover would give double the value.

Any right thinking person who worked out what they got for their money would go to the cheap insurance company right away.

The same applies to Plumbing companies.

The problem I think, is that perhaps many Plumbing companies are run by Plumbers, not business or marketing men, so its still very much a "What is the most I can get for this, industry!"

The customer is then left to accept or reject what is on offer.
Except for the likes of gas fitting where the market is biased toward the Gas Safe contractor.
The problem is controlling prices in a closed market is often a case of eventually the government stepping in to regulate it in some way or other. I suppose flooding the market with gas fitters is one way to bring prices down.

And lets be frank, isn't, according to the mails that happening now?
 
I dont know what to say to this, some claiming they wouldnt work for £12 per hour !! i wish i was on that and no im not a plumber. Is £12 per hour what you are reffering to when people say there is no money in plumbing anymore ? £12 per hour in a 40hr week is 23k before tax, that is a good wage !! i would be happy with it anyway !
 
note to self version 2.............., never employ bernie as he chats to much, great in the pub not on the site lol
 
HEATING ENGINEER


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Job No:

HER/17503

Wage

£18,720 PER ANNUM

Hours

40 PER WEEK MONDAY TO FRIDAY BETWEEN 7.30AM-5.30PM

Location

GLOUCESTER, BRISTOL & SWINDON HR4

Duration

Temporary

Date posted

08 July 2010

Pension details

Pension available



Description

Temporary position for 3 initially but may become permanent for the right applicant. Must be gas safe registered. Must have a full drivers licence. Company vehicle is provided. Must have experience in installing products. Part B electronically certified would be advantage. Must be willing to travel and some overnight stays may be required. Duties will be. installing heating products and servicing equipment. You can send a CV to: [email protected]

almost laughable
 
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