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WaterTight

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Brief timeline:

1) Received email with pic of a tap, he writes that it drips, asks for advice/poss repair. He had two identical kitchen mixers.
2) I replied quickly saying it looked like a Franke Olympus, asked if 'Franke' was written on the base plate and/or does he have any paperwork etc
3) He replied no and no.
4) First warning sign: Less than 24 hrs later (during which short period of time I hadn't yet got back to him) he sent a passive aggresive follow-up email saying that if I was unable to identify it or help would I "kindly let him know."
5) I replied with a thorough explanation of how to find out by emailing a picture to Franke, explained that their official spares are very, very expensive, that I could visit to see if generic ones fit but it would be chargeable etc etc.
6) He thanked me for this and after a bit of quibbling I arranged to go round. The grub screw on the first tap handle I tried was rounded off, so I said new tap.
7) He was clearly an extremley particular type (as well as unlikeable, very superior) and wants things just so. I told him the same taps are available although they are £150 each. He said it doesn't "have to be another Franke Olympus but something of similar quality, similar style." I took this to mean he'd be happy with something a little less expensive and fancy as long as it is decent. I said I'll have a look and email him a suggestion. Already this is some pretty high maintenance stuff for a tap change.
8) I email him my suggestion of a Franke Ascona as it's same brand, almost identical spout height, arch etc. Only real difference is more compact body.
9) He replies he is interested but wants to physically see it so he can decide. I know, I know I should have bailed by now. But I do exclusively small jobs and taps are bread and butter.
10) So I arrange to buy the taps, bring them round and show them to him. He likes them, he even takes them up to his wife to show her. We book the job in.
11) I fit them. No sooner have I left then I get a call saying one is loose. I return and it's not. It's solid but he has been going over them with a fine tooth comb and has noticed that if you move it around from half way up the tap flexes a bit on the stainless steel sink. I say - as politely as possible - that that inevitable, the previous one would have done this too but you didn't notice because you actually move the tap around by the spout (which I demonstrated, and no flex occured) and that I made sure to install the brace that goes underneath to add extra stability. He conceded these points and I went on my way.
12) A day later I get a text. They are not happy with the taps. They consider them inferior quality.
13) I politely ask him to elaborate on what he means by inferior. He replies " when you turn on the taps gently there isn't an even flow of water - if the hot tap has been on and you then go to cold separately the water is initially warm - the taps have residual dripping which the others never had until the utility started playing up - there is a perpetual teardrop of water hanging from the tap - I don't like the close proximity of the two levers, they are very fiddly to use, the tap handles on the originals were much further apart. Because the new ones are Franke we thought the performance would be the same but it's anything but, I'm afraid. I hope all of this makes some kind of sense"

Bear in mind I brought the taps round to show him, took them out of the box, he held them, took them upstairs to show his wife.

What would you do?

Below are the taps. The new one (Franke Ascona) is on the left, the old one (Franke Olympus) on the right.

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Forgot to say in his first text saying he was unhappy with them said "please source the source the same as we had before or an alternative of better quality"

So I guess the options are:

1) Arrange to replace the taps with two Franke Olympus (same as he had before) and get paid the difference in the price for the taps but no extra for labour

2) Arrange to replace the taps with two Franke Olympus (same as he had before) and get paid the difference in the price for the taps and the cost of replacing them

3) Refuse to do either of the above as he is being unreasonable and demand payment

4) Something else
 
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Did you get paid from the visits and install of the new tap ?
 
I can tell he's the type that will leave me a scathing review on google.
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This might be a crazy question but is there a way someone can stop/reclaim a payment made by BACS like they can stop a cheque?
 
Problem is he will never be happy if he does leave one just replay to it Nicely stating the facts

nope other than cards stolen etc
 
Cheers Shaun. Never happy is exactly right. No guarantee that even if I fitted the same as before he would be happy. Happiness may be beyond him.

you’ve fitted the tap to a good standard it’s a high quality tap / materials he’s only moaning about the flex of the head and the water mixing on start up / dripping so not an install problem In my eyes him being fussy
 
Scott has the right idea get him to purchase the next tap the quality is then down to him the Tapwarehouse online has loads to choose from fill him some s---t he will get it at cost . Then £50 to fit it and keep the other tap. Dick 😂😂
 
Can I ask why everyone has been so hostile towards the customer. He clearly hasn’t got an issue with @WaterTight or your work as he has paid you. Have you spoken to him and explained that the new tap would be an addition charge and he would need to supply it. Also explain as above that your hourly rate is x and this is also an additional charge. Get everything in email or text. (Just in case).
 
I would say as you offered to get the Olympus in the first place and he asked you not to he knows he is at fault and this is bourne out by fact he has paid.
I think would say if he would like to get the taps himself and check that he is happy with them then I would come and swap them over in exchange for one of the other taps (ie £100- as you can punt it on to next customer).
I think there’s quite a good chance that he’d give you both , but I would initially ask for one.
 
Thanks for the all responses chaps. The very fact it has split opinion suggests he is, at the very most charitable, high maintenance and at the very worst, unreasonable to the point of not worth further dealings with.

I think I was very suprised to find I'd been paid as I hadn't when I first checked and he'd been so difficult to please that when I got the final text (while fighting with a toilet) I just assumed he wouldn't have paid as a result of not being happy. So I may have framed the situation a little more uncharitably that I should have. Maybe...

To those who think I should offer to fit replacement taps as long as I am paid (either with extra money or the original tap(s)) I suspect this is a fair point and I'm even on the fence about it as I tend to try and be as charitable towards people's motives as possible. Even found myself viewing him as 'unlucky to be the way he is.'

The problem is I'm every bit as unlucky to have worked for him as I'm not accostmed to working for people who, despite every outward politeness, are insanely particular and picky and hardwork. It stressed me out to be honest.

It's been about 8 emails and 4 visits to his house to fit a pair of kitchen taps.

Some of his issues with the tap could well occur with the new Olympus if they've updated the aertor or changed the valve design or something. You've got to admit a teardrop of water remaining at the end of the spout is not a reasonable quibble is it? And after using the hot the cold comes out warm briefly? That's bonkers to worry about. The handles are too close together? How did you not notice that when you held the damn thing and took it to show to your wife? Fiddly to use? Really? Fiddly. Up and down levers. Like the previous one.

I think that's the clincher for me. If he was just loaded and OCD and was in love with original design and "feels like a fool" but "must have the old ones back" or something you know?.. You'd humour him.

I'll email him back and update you.....

Stay tuned for the next exciting episode of Confession Of A Plumber on VHS (in technicolor)
 
He might be a PITA customer, but at the end of the day he paid you for something he is not completely happy with.
( not you - the taps )

If he wants the old type taps installed, price him up for a new install + the price of the new taps.
Credit him 50% of the cost of the taps you installed.

Just tell him you can't take them back because they have been installed and you will have to hold onto the taps until you find someone that wants that type of tap.
If he's not happy with that, tell him to keep the taps and charge him full price for a new installation.
 
Update:

Customer has decided that the main thing he can't live with is the 1-3 drops that permanently hang from the end of he spout (he even sent me a photo.)

He is not claiming I am responsible. He said he contacted Franke who said it shouldn't do this and are sending him some "valves." I presume literally hot and cold valves.

My thought is this won't solve anything and that the only thing that could would be a different aerator. Anyone agree? And I'm guessing one that is quite restrictive.....?

Thanks
 
Update:

Customer has decided that the main thing he can't live with is the 1-3 drops that permanently hang from the end of he spout (he even sent me a photo.)

He is not claiming I am responsible. He said he contacted Franke who said it shouldn't do this and are sending him some "valves." I presume literally hot and cold valves.

My thought is this won't solve anything and that the only thing that could would be a different aerator. Anyone agree? And I'm guessing one that is quite restrictive...?

Thanks
Morning all. Apologies if this sounds blunt. But I have had an really busy week. Why are we speculating on what the new cartridges Will or will not do mate? We have already made the error of presuming that the customer wasn’t happy with your work. (Which he clearly is) this is clearly a FRANKE issue and has nothing to do with you at all. I would suggest fitting the replacement cartridges and letting FRANKE deal with any issues there after. This is not an issue with you at all. But with the tap which is what I stated in my earlier post.
 
This is exactly why sometimes I wish I was on someones books and didn't have to worry about sending out invoices. Whenever any customer asks to have a look at something or that there is something they dont like the sixths extra spider sense at the back of my head screams "they are wanting free work". Lately I have been extremely upfront with pricing and any incline of any work that wasn't part of the original work or isn't covered by my guarantee I tell the customer exactly that without any concern for their feelings, I would rather know straight away where we stand and go from there trudging in ambiguity without knowing if you will be paid for hours of your work is a horribile feeling. Worst case scenario they will demand your time free of charge but then again you take your chance of standing ground or risking reprisal on Google
 
If tap doesn’t keep occasionally dripping after being unused for an hour, then the cartridges don’t need replaced. A more restrictive aerator might solve the drip hanging from nozzle.
Some people have mental problems to some degree and got to be aware of that possibility.
Others though are just selfish annoying creatures.
 

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