When is filling loop not a filling loop???

[Riley]

Hi guys,
Went to a job this afternoon where the custards boiler is in the loft. We got chatting about how well the boiler was working when he got onto its pressure loss. I obviously explained what this could be and that he'd need to get an engineer in to recharge it as and when it was required. I was surprised when he told me that his regular plumber had fixed that for him, he led me into the garage where he showed me a secondary filling loop installed on the pipework along with a pressure gauge. He told me that this was to save him going into the loft every time it needed repressurising. I was so caught out by this set up that I just nodded and left ASAP. I have to go back to fit a couple of new radiators and am concerned about what the hell I should say about this secondary loop, it can't be allowed and using another pressure gauge other than that on the boiler is nothing but dangerous surely? Please help!!!!

 

[mfgs]

There is nothing wrong with having a filling loop and secondary gauge away from the boiler. It isn't always practical to have the filling loop by the boiler like in this case.

 

[Riley]

I was always taught to not leave a filling loop attached to stop the customer "playing"? Have I misunderstood this??

 

[mountainman]

There is nothing wrong with having a filling loop and secondary gauge away from the boiler. It isn't always practical to have the filling loop by the boiler like in this case.

Spot on!

 

[Dannypipe]

I was always taught to not leave a filling loop attached to stop the customer "playing"? Have I misunderstood this??

It's correct, but in practical real world situations, it just doesn't happen. Everyone leaves em attached, and no one is going to judge you for doing the same.

 

[mfgs]

No the flexi shouldn't be left attached, but that wasn't the issue in your first post.

 

[dancinplumba]

My god what a question to find in the private GS forum

 

[Dannypipe]

My god what a question to find in the private GS forum

What do you mean mate?

 

[plumber0808]

I have done this quite a few times, when I worked for a company doing systems for elderly or less abled.
They can't be expected to clamber up lofts or into tight cupboards when you can hardly see the pressure gauge a example is the logic where it is right under the casing.
Very handy IMO

 

[dancinplumba]

What do you mean mate?

Steady danny nowt you posted , post bout external fill loop and exp vessel

 

[Riley]

Apologies mfgs and all I have never left filling loops attached. Consider my question answered if you're all happy that loops left aren't really that much of an issue cheers all and sorry for the daft question

 

[plumber0808]

LOL
" seen the secondary filling loop and pressure gauge nodded and left"

 

[buckley plumb]

the cheap filling loops don't comply with water regs the check valve should be fitted to the cold but not possible with the cheap ones only one iso on them

 

[SafeGasInstall]

op you sound not competent enough to do the work , i advise you to get more experienced plumber with you and learn from him

 

[Dannypipe]

Steady danny nowt you posted , post bout external fill loop and exp vessel

I wasn't annoyed! Just asking why you thought it was weird question for the OP to post?

 

[plumber0808]

Apologies mfgs and all I have never left filling loops attached. Consider my question answered if you're all happy that loops left aren't really that much of an issue cheers all and sorry for the daft question

Don't worry about it, if you don't know at least you are finding out the answer.
Best place to find out is here as there are many opinions

 

[gassafe]

I thought you were going to say a pressure reducing valve had been attached set @ 1 bar to replenish system! A secondary gauge in the garage with additional fill loop is what I would have done too! As for the fill loop left attached... If it aims attached its gonna get lost!

 

[mutley racers]

My god what a question to find in the private GS forum

Shame man.

 

[Dannypipe]

Apologies mfgs and all I have never left filling loops attached. Consider my question answered if you're all happy that loops left aren't really that much of an issue cheers all and sorry for the daft question

I don't think it's a stupid question. It's obvious to experienced plumbers, but if you're new to the trade, then you probably need to continue working alongside whoever mentored you to get your gas portfolio built up.

Remember some blokes are gas qualified and all they've ever done is fit meters. A couple of days at college and they're out fitting boilers. I don't think it's right, but it's true.

 

[SafeGasInstall]

Apologies mfgs and all I have never left filling loops attached. Consider my question answered if you're all happy that loops left aren't really that much of an issue cheers all and sorry for the daft question

dont be silly , ask as much as you can it will bring up your technical knowledge more ,

we dont know it all , you know

 

[Dannypipe]

I thought you were going to say a pressure reducing valve had been attached set @ 1 bar to replenish system! A secondary gauge in the garage with additional fill loop is what I would have done too! As for the fill loop left attached... If it aims attached its gonna get lost!

SNAP! That's exactly what I thought too.

 

[SafeGasInstall]

I thought you were going to say a pressure reducing valve had been attached set @ 1 bar to replenish system! A secondary gauge in the garage with additional fill loop is what I would have done too! As for the fill loop left attached... If it aims attached its gonna get lost!

that is what i was waiting for

 

[SafeGasInstall]

Shame man.

why ?????

 

[dancinplumba]

the cheap filling loops don't comply with water regs the check valve should be fitted to the cold but not possible with the cheap ones only one iso on them

Regulation since1999

 

[mutley racers]

We are all learning. Always best to ask than not. No matter if it's a silly question or not. No question that needs answering though in my opinion is silly. It's all about learning. And that is why we are on here. To learn and help out.