Worcester junior 28i (non condense)

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Ain't removed chamber cover yet

 

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Talk about removing.
I'm not even going there.
As far as I've seen it's enough
These people should be back tomorrow.
And as far as things go
I'm not going to assist it in any way.
They can get another engineer to do what's required.
Whether a replacement or repair.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Ain't removed chamber cover yet

how can you complete a cp12 then?

 

[spanner]

Not complete
Its tightness tested only and as far as the issue with the discharging of the prv and banging..
Or have I filled out the wrong form ..??

 

[ShaunCorbs]

are you training or fully gas safe?

 

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Its the only form u have other than the hot water G3 sheet

 

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Fully gas safe.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

no theres a few

Gas Safety Shop: Certificate-Pads

did you fill out a do not use form / cert and isolate it

 

[jtsplumbing]

For your information the 28i doesn't have a Plate heat exchanger, just had a similar problem with one of these found a blockage in the flexi pipe between the pump and expansion tank, & its a pig to get at

 

[spanner]

Cheers mate.
Will scroll through
So which form would you USE
For this task??

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Cheers mate.
Will scroll through
So which form would you USE
For this task??

non as its not a ar or id issue

 

[spanner]

For your information the 28i doesn't have a Plate heat exchanger, just had a similar problem with one of these found a blockage in the flexi pipe between the pump and expansion tank, & its a pig to get at

Sounds like a job in itself..
Looks ok from the outside at the moment

 

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non as its not a ar or id issue

Well I'll add a label to do not use to cover myself.
Until I can get to understand the Go ahead the owners the goods can stay right where it is mate.
Until then.
Been here before with people trying to get one over on you
Especially when when they're over 5 or 10 year

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Well I'll add a label to do not use to cover myself.
Until I can get to understand the Go ahead the owners the goods can stay right where it is mate.
Until then.
Been here before with people trying to get one over on you
Especially when when they're over 5 or 10 year

fyi you can get brought in and put on probation from gas safe by wrongly classing fault (ar / id)

 

[spanner]

Well I never thought of that.
When Is explained to gas safe today over the access and the situation to cover myself
Was told if I'm not going to investigate it'd be a cause for concern to label it do not use.
I've said this before
When they're back I can ask more questions and get answers

 

[spanner]

My probation was over years ago.
Don't know whether these people are used to banging noises and the neighbours. But if I weren't an engineer personally I'd turn off my own boiler or appliances for my own safety and the safety of others around until I could get a qualified person or persons assistance.

 

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fyi you can get brought in and put on probation from gas safe by wrongly classing fault (ar / id)

Quite Honestly I would not even go there.
If you are in a household with no one present you'll have no option but to stick a label.
Otherwise things are never done.
And personally this is where the cowboys come in through the back doors.
I've been a plumber over ten years and registered gas safe for the past three.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Quite Honestly I would not even go there.
If you are in a household with no one present you'll have no option but to stick a label.
Otherwise things are never done.
And personally this is where the cowboys come in through the back doors.
I've been a plumber over ten years and registered gas safe for the past three.

but the thing is you didnt do your checks you cant turn a boiler off because you dont like the sound or look of it unless theres something wrong with it eg falling off a wall, no flue etc

 

[spanner]

I Disagree with you. There are further issues just as I've tried to be as explicit as I 1st quoted
Needed advise
So I've turned it off regardless
Issued a label.
Its safe..

 

[London Gas]

If there is a banging noise from the HE I wouldn't class that as anything, if for any reason you cannot do the basic checks after working on it i.e cant analyse, gas rate, test fsd etc, then I would potentially at risk it as you cannot confirm its safe, but if you can and it sounds like a plumbing issue, I would just note it down and advise not to use it, essentially you're classing that appliance as immediately dangerous without knowing the reason?

 

[spanner]

In regards to being at fault whether they call out anotger engineer or not
Quite obviously as far as ive entered im not happy with a banging boiler and a discharging prv
That's more than enough for me .
I'm not one of these type to be hanging new boileres on walls when it comes to faults.
Yes they are back today

 

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So I'm potentially at fault for not checking burner press gas rate fsd
If the boiler is discharging and banging and there's no one present that's fine to be stripping down the job finding faults and replacing part or parts until they return
Get the job done and expect cash.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Yes you are at fault for classing a boiler as ar without doing any tests just because it's making a noise and prv blowing off

 

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How.
You must be nuts
If I've seen a boiler and taken into account it's noisy
Turned it off
Stuck a label on it.
This is for the attention and safety of covering my bum
The owner is back now and as far as it is at the moment
Its a noisy boiler and what I had assumed .
The water in the calorifier is letting water into the heating circuit
Tap isolator is letting by when off
Causing the boiler when switched off to keep pressurising
The tap water immediately came out rusty a water category 5
To replace the part is £300 and a basket of a job to do.
Plus
A banging heat exchanger
A p0werflush- is this gonna solve the issue .. I don't think so.
Personally I don't think you're taking it seriously enough Shaun.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Phone gas safe up and tell them that and ask ar or id they will laugh at you

Thoughts guys ?