Working pressure effecting combustion.

[Dake205]

I agree 1 can lead to the other however until pipework is sorted and you can confirm that was the low pressure issue in this instance, I’d say they should be classed as separate, what hpns if you advise that changing the pipework will sort the issue and it doesn’t

 

[Knappers]

I don't know why it wouldn't, but they're not compounding issues, one doesn't make the other worse so for me it wouldn't change how I'd class the fault.
Undersized pipework and low pressure at the meter - that compounds
Poor combustion and inadequate flue terminal clearance - that compounds
I don't know why I'm arguing the Point tho as I'd AR it anyway

 

[snowhead]

what hpns if you advise that changing the pipework will sort the issue and it doesn’t

If it doesn't, then you've got your calculations wrong, it's your fault and you'd have to keep going till it was sorted, at your own expense.

 

[Dake205]

exactly my point, it’s his job and if he doesn’t separate them and changing the pipe doesn’t solve it, he will be left with the extra expense

 

[Knappers]

I don't really understand gassafe their quite happy to let you make your own mind up but in the one time in 10years I got inspected the fella got really upset when I didn't get out the stopwatch for a drop test and said I'll time it if its dropped after I put my tools away.
I got the timer out

 

[dan_the_plumber]

‘Not to current standards’ doesn’t exist anymore! It’s AR or ID that’s it.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

‘Not to current standards’ doesn’t exist anymore! It’s AR or ID that’s it.

Yes it does

 

[dan_the_plumber]

‘Not to current standards’ doesn’t exist anymore! It’s AR or ID that’s it.

Yes it does

Thats not what I’ve been told Shaun.

 

[dan_the_plumber]

‘Not to current standards’ doesn’t exist anymore! It’s AR or ID that’s it.

Thats not what I’ve been told Shaun.

I’ll check GIUSP

 

[ShaunCorbs]

There still there just note down / advise but don’t act on which is what was done before but still there

 

[dan_the_plumber]

There still there just note down / advise but don’t act on which is what was done before but still there

Well yes make a note to cover your bum for sure. But as I said NCS does not exist anymore.
There’s an update to GIUSP available on gas Safe website

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Well yes make a note to cover your bum for sure. But as I said NCS does not exist anymore.
There’s an update to GIUSP available on gas Safe website

But it does still have to note it down so still exists

 

[dan_the_plumber]

But it does still have to note it down so still exists

If you like Shaun.

 

[Riley]

But it does still have to note it down so still exists

It’s termed “Non Compliant” from what I was told last assessment.

 

[dan_the_plumber]

It’s deemed “Non Compliant” from what I was told last assessment.

It’s all there in black and white on the updated version of GIUSP available on gas Safe website

 

[Riley]

Only saying what the guys leading the reassessment taught me and I’d rather use it than not

 

[dan_the_plumber]

Only saying what the guys leading the reassessment taught me and I’d rather use it than not

Yes but GIUSP comes from the HSE. I think I’m probably going to follow the gas laws rather than a bloke in a training centre

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Yes but GIUSP comes from the HSE. I think I’m probably going to follow the gas laws rather than a bloke in a training centre

What about gas safe don’t you follow them ?

 

[Knappers]

I dont want to be a protagonist but 'gas laws' what are they?

 

[dan_the_plumber]

What about gas safe don’t you follow them ?

I’m not really sure what you’re talking about Shaun. Have you logged onto gas Safe website recently. It’s all there mate. AR and ID. No mention of NCS because it’s gone Shaun.

 

[dan_the_plumber]

I dont want to be a protagonist but 'gas laws' what are they?

Predominantly Gas safety installation and use regulations 1998 which includes GIUSP

 

[dan_the_plumber]

Predominantly Gas safety installation and use regulations 1998 which includes GIUSP

The updated version reference IGEM/G/11 with amendments 11 April 2018

 

[Knappers]

A regulation and a procedure. I'm quite happy to use NCS terminology and in my bubble I'm the law, but I'll consider the regulations while I'm putting on my spurs and drinking at the sloon

 

[dan_the_plumber]

A regulation and a procedure. I'm quite happy to use NCS terminology and in my bubble I'm the law, but I'll consider the regulations while I'm putting on my spurs and drinking at the sloon

I wonder how much credit a court room judge or a solicitor would give to your ‘bubble’. Up to you though

 

[Riley]

I don’t disagree with the sentiment you still have to advise customers. Call it advisory NC NCS whatever you still have to do it