Your hour is up !!!

[villa_tom]

It's in the arms though, can't see the harm it's doing, I think more harm would be done not having this conversation.

Peoples silence tells a tale.

Spot on.

The best way to sort things out is to talk about them.

 

[Dan]

Spot on.

The best way to sort things out is to talk about them.

.... but offline.

 

[mfgs]

All seems a bit odd to me, I don't see why the mods cant just come out and say exactly what they disagreed on. Everyone wants to know and it all just makes it seem more suspicious by not really saying anything.

 

[SimonG]

.... but offline.

I disagree. Hope I'm not going to be shown the door

If it was dotted all over the forum or impacting the general forums then yes. But isolated in the arms I don't see the issue. I do see the issue with being told not to talk about it or go away and talk about it.

 

[Destroyer2813]

.... but offline.

How if the only contact members have with each other is here, or we all gonna post our mobile numbers and we can have a mass conference call or you gonna book us a conference room so we can hash it out of the forum where everyone seems to want it to happen

 

[Killy Bing]

I'm having a hot chocolate.

Ohhh ohhh do you have whipped cream, caramel sauce, vanilla dusting and marshmellows in it?
Make me one cropp monster!

 

[zeebeedee]

It said personal differences

I honestly don't understand what "personal differences" have to do with this forum. I'm sorry if I'm speaking out of turn but i find it quite childish and almost bully like tactics. Personal differences should be set aside as adults.

 

[stoker122]

If Colin has stated his case on FB I don't see why the mods can't put their view across. As has been said its in the arms with guys who are always on here and knew Colin.
Dragging this out is causing very bad feelings across the forum.

 

[Rickster123]

Are they proper ones , might have one before beddie byes

No she's been to poxy Aldi again!

 

[stoker122]

'know Colin'

 

[Dannypipe]

Well I've heard one uncensored side of it on Facebook, so if you want to read Colins side of things you just need to go on there!

I'm off to bed now. Bad, vibes from this thread. Not nice reading at all really.

 

[mfgs]

Can someone paste what Colin put on facebook? I'm interested to read it and I am sure others will be too.

 

[Billy Bob Bob]

I cant sort it by loggin off ! When i logg back on the shot still happened ! People i still cant trust ! And covers ups !

Last time dan closed a thread ?

we do care,and dont want to see you or any of the other lads go,we made a very difficult decision to let colin go but things go on out of site that you guys dont get to see,i personally dont want to go into the reasons,being a moderator is sometimes a horrible job,you would be shocked if you could see things through our eyes,really wish you would consider staying ryan,no one wants you to go

 

[jase158]

I think this is very suspicious, sounds from FB that Colin doesn't really know himself. If you evict someone at least have the decency to tell them why!!!

 

[Simon F]

I have just read through what is clearly a very heated debate.
I don't do facebook so don't know whats been said, even if it was posted up here, I would read it with a heavy dose of salt because it is human nature to put things in a way that favours our viewpoint or side of things.
That of course could be argued to be the case both ways.
As to leaving out of some sort of supposed loyalty, that comes across as a knee jerk reaction that has not been completely thought through.
If anyone doesn't want to be a part of the forum then simply don't log on. The op is then still in control.
So what are we to conclude.

1 - as explained there are issues behind the scenes that mean it was necessary for Colin to go for the benefit of the forum as a whole, or
2 - The rest of the mods and admin team have a personal vendetta for no reason and no one is safe!
Thinking about this logically rather than emotionally would lead to option 1 making more sense.

 

[SimonG]

You up for Colins job, Simon?

 

[Rickster123]

You up for Colins job, Simon?

At this rate Supper Plum will be eyeing the job up!

 

[Simon F]

You up for Colins job, Simon?

No.
not trying to score any brownie points, just keeping a balanced view, hopefully??

 

[SimonG]

No.
not trying to score any brownie points, just keeping a balanced view, hopefully??

I think that's been a problem, getting a balanced view.

 

[chris watkins]

I might as well throw my two penny-worth in.
For me it is not the disagreement within the management side of this forum that is cause for concern but any attempt to hush it up or sweep it under the carpet, difficult though it would be to manage it, both sides should be heard, we are as someone has already stated, adults. (well most)
I have always understood that the Mod's do a very difficult & demanding job & get little thanks from most on hear but!!! & it's a big BUT, It should also not be forgotten that all the plumbers on here who give up there time & provide answers to questions posted by members & public alike have a vested interest & value to the forum, without us it is no more than a talking & joke shop which would attract no money from sponsors.
If members are barred or even given infractions without explanation, from on-high as it were & then the rest told put up / shut up or you can leave, you may all find a lot less info is available from the likes of us (me).

P.S. I will miss colin, greatly & I don't use or have assess to FB so have no idea what the issues are or have been.

 

[villa_tom]

I might as well throw my two penny-worth in.
For me it is not the disagreement within the management side of this forum that is cause for concern but any attempt to hush it up or sweep it under the carpet, difficult though it would be to manage it, both sides should be heard, we are as someone has already stated, adults. (well most)
I have always understood that the Mod's do a very difficult & demanding job & get little thanks from most on hear but!!! & it's a big BUT, It should also not be forgotten that all the plumbers on here who give up there time & provide answers to questions posted by members & public alike have a vested interest & value to the forum, without us it is no more than a talking & joke shop which would attract no money from sponsors.
If members are barred or even given infractions without explanation, from on-high as it were & then the rest told put up / shut up or you can leave, you may all find a lot less info is available from the likes of us (me).

P.S. I will miss colin, greatly & I don't use or have assess to FB so have no idea what the issues are or have been.

Brillianh post.

 

[Dannypipe]

Like I said, a forum is made by it's members. So I don't think it's right to treat em like mushrooms (keep them in the dark and feed em sh*t).

 

[peteheat]

.... but offline.

Hi Dan,

Maybe you don't understand there are many of us who never would have had the pleasure of Colin's knowledge and wit if we were not online.

Feelings are running high, if anything it displays the respect so many have for Colin and the poor handling of a situation by management.

Posts by mods amounting to leave if you wish and don't let the door hit you on the arse on the way out are anything but helpful.

The least I would expect is some form of explanation preferably a joint statement by Colin and management.

Colin has a very high post rate which in my view reflects his loyalty to this forum, maybe he wasn't cut out to be a mod, of course
we don't know what the mods have to deal with, that said I'm sure there was a more dignified way of asking Colin to step down
from that position if necessary.

I and I'm sure others respect the fact that we are guests here, perhaps management might display their respect for the fact that
without contributors like Colin there would be no forum.

I suggest that you learn from this and refrain from "throwing the baby out with the bath water"

 

[tamz]

I've tried to keep out of this at times heated discussion as i know there are always two sides to every story.
Maybe over the next day or so someone could put forward a statement of this, the forum side of the story. Many here have seen one side but it would be appreciated to see that balanced. I'd like to think there could be a better way to deal with this given some of the strong feelings raised than bury the head in the sand.
Don't just sweep it under and hope it disappears. Much better to face it and explain both sides before resentment builds up.

 

[Keefy]

Can't be arsed reading through all these posts but whatever is going on it's ruining my favourite website. I'll read through when I have time. Consider me neutral for the moment.

Keith