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Flue Location.. Is it a Balcony, a Car Port or a Soffitt?

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Hi. I'm new to all this, and not sure it's appropriate,
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This flue is to my newly fitted replacement Ideal Logic Max boiler. The position is the same as it was with my old boiler. I have been told in the past that it was incorrect, but my fitter has assured me it is now OK with this plume kit. It certainly seems OK, and the plume directs away from the door nicely. I realise it's not a Balcony, a Car Port or a Soffitt, but reading the guidelines I'm not too sure it's right. I obviously don't want any problems with Ideal if a warranty claim is ever required.
Any advice, reassurance would be appreciated. Thanks

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Definitely not right to me. But cannot see much in the Manufacturer’s Instructions. Cannot even see a flue locations drawing and table. I would say needs changing. Is that passage a public right of way? Or just to your house?
 
Totally agree mate, I just don’t understand why some engineers force an install in sometimes why make it difficult or run the risk of someone telling you to change it
 
Harvest Fields said:
Definitely not right to me. But cannot see much in the Manufacturer’s Instructions. Cannot even see a flue locations drawing and table. I would say needs changing. Is that passage a public right of way? Or just to your house?
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Just my house. I'm finding the flue location drawings very confusing.
Changing in what way. The Boiler / flue location, on just the plume kit?
 
If it were me, I would extend the flue to above the roofline above and point the flue terminal towards the neighbouring property or back towards the tiled roof.
I would have the terminal a minimum of 500mm above the tiled roof.

Tricky and grey area, but I would do this as a minimum to at least attempt to get the plume away from the entrance.
 
Rich Irish said:
Just my house. I'm finding the flue location drawings very confusing.
Changing in what way. The Boiler / flue location, on just the plume kit?
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You would need to speak to ideal, but I would come out the wall with an elbow and an horizontal flue extension. Then the terminal and plume management kit, so that it clears that low roof. Making sure that the flue is correctly supported. I wouldn’t go vertical. There looks like that there could be boundary issues. This is just an idea and would need to be checked by ideal first as not sure there standard flue can be used externally.
 
oz-plumber said:
If it were me, I would extend the flue to above the roofline above and point the flue terminal towards the neighbouring property or back towards the tiled roof.
I would have the terminal a minimum of 500mm above the tiled roof.

Tricky and grey area, but I would do this as a minimum to at least attempt to get the plume away from the entrance.
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I suggested taking the plume kit up through the false ceiling, and 90' through the back. I'm guessing it's not allowed to box in the elbow though.
 
Riley said:
Totally agree mate, I just don’t understand why some engineers force an install in sometimes why make it difficult or run the risk of someone telling you to change it
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Annoying thing is, shifting the boiler wasn't a massive issue, but fitter insisted this option would be OK, and much cheaper. Now What though? Fork out for more plume kit, or a days work to resite the boiler?
 
Harvest Fields said:
You would need to speak to ideal, but I would come out the wall with an elbow and an horizontal flue extension. Then the terminal and plume management kit, so that it clears that low roof. Making sure that the flue is correctly supported. I wouldn’t go vertical. There looks like that there could be boundary issues. This is just an idea and would need to be checked by ideal first as not sure there standard flue can be used externally.
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This isn’t just extra plume kit mate
 
It might actually be ok. Looking at the measurements for the plume kit you can actually run the outlet 25mm away from the wall. The only thing which may flag it up, is the distance from the door. I know it's not a carport or balcony but the characteristics of the opening are similar and this instance I would aim for the 1200 measurement.

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Craig Watson said:
It might actually be ok. Looking at the measurements for the plume kit you can actually run the outlet 25mm away from the wall. The only thing which may flag it up, is the distance from the door. I know it's not a carport or balcony but the characteristics of the opening are similar and this instance I would aim for the 1200 measurement.

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Where did you get those figures from?
 
Google ideal boiler flue accessories and download this pdf. It's worth a note that only one minimum measurement can be taken down to 25mm and then all others would be subject to the standard minimum distances, and I feel this may be too much info for the public forum so remove it if you feel it's necessary

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