0.5mb drop on tightness test - Should I be worried?

[JTplumbingservices]

next time you do a test after your done put your hand on the gas pipe and watch the gauge now imagine a windy / cloudy day the gauge could go down 3 - 4 mbar for nothing just a bit chilly

And yes as it’s within safe limits so in short your making work for your self

I get that mate , I just have mad OCD

 

[ShaunCorbs]

So if in that situation, you had a 3mbar drop on a g4 metre, your conscience gets the better of you and you decide to investigate. You isolate the appliances and prove the pipework is sound. You then test each appliance individually and find the gas valve on the fire is passing. What then? Do you leave it or have to condem it?

Have to remove / cap the appliance with permission if the original test was outside specd limits for said meter

 

[ShaunCorbs]

I get that mate , I just have mad OCD

Same but if you get reported gas safe won’t be happy with you

 

[Aire]

Have to remove / cap the appliance with permission if the original test was outside specd limits for said meter

Yeah but 3mbar is within tolerance so would you still have to cap it?

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Yeah but 3mbar is within tolerance so would you still have to cap it?

No within spec and no smell leave it you could note it down

As you wouldn’t go looking for one so no appliances removed / capped to test just the line

 

[Harvest Fields]

Yeah but 3mbar is within tolerance so would you still have to cap it?

Yes I would if I had found where it is coming from.

 

[JTplumbingservices]

Same but if you get reported gas safe won’t be happy with you

Why would I be reported for that though mate ?
Not trying to argue here, I’ve just never been told this.
At college when the question of trying to find a drop even if within limits was asked the answer was there no need but if you want to try and find it then you can.

 

[Sharp Point]

The steel pipe bit?

I was actually going to go song and prayer on the stupid 1 bar testing on steel, but to tired to carry on.

Rough day

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Why would I be reported for that though mate ?
Not trying to argue here, I’ve just never been told this.
At college when the question of trying to find a drop even if within limits was asked the answer was there no need but if you want to try and find it then you can.

As it’s acceptable and safe

Let’s say you’ve had a 2.5 mbar drop you spend 1/2 a day looking around and testing you find it and fix it

Give the customer a bill of let’s pick a figure £200 every other engineer hasn’t picked this fault up / says it needs repairing

Customer says how much, they phones gas safe up and say I want to see if something sounds right with you

I’ve had a gas leak of 2.5 mbar and the engineers found it and repaired it but it’s cost me 200 did it need repairing

They will ask the customer a few questions or send an inspector out etc

And they will say no it’s within acceptable limits Customer won’t pay the bill etc

 

[Aire]

This confuses me too, so harvest has said once he found where the gas was coming from, he would cap it as obviously it isn't acceptable for a valve to be passing gas. But if you haven't gone looking for the leak it's acceptable? Just seems that if we're ignorant we can pass it off. I know we're only following rules but from a safety point, why aren't we forced to confirm whether the drop is through fluctuation or an actual leak? The no smell of gas rule is a little ignorant too as the gas will just go out the flue or chimney so it's unlikely you'll smell it.

 

[JTplumbingservices]

As it’s acceptable and safe

Let’s say you’ve had a 2.5 mbar drop you spend 1/2 a day looking around and testing you find it and fix it

Give the customer a bill of let’s pick a figure £200 every other engineer hasn’t picked this fault up / says it needs repairing

Customer says how much, they phones gas safe up and say I want to see if something sounds right with you

I’ve had a gas leak of 2.5 mbar and the engineers found it and repaired it but it’s cost me 200 did it need repairing

They will ask the customer a few questions or send an inspector out etc

And they will say no it’s within acceptable limits Customer won’t pay the bill etc

Ok I get where your coming from with that side of things.
I thought you were meaning I wouldn’t be doing something safely.
I wouldn’t do that though tbf, if I chose to do that just for my own piece of mind then any extra time taken would be on me.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Ok I get where your coming from with that side of things.
I thought you were meaning I wouldn’t be doing something safely.
I wouldn’t do that though tbf, if I chose to do that just for my own piece of mind then any extra time taken would be on me.

Thing is if you take that stance good luck as you could be buying new cookers and gas valves/ fires for people out if your own pocket and can’t charge for

 

[JTplumbingservices]

Thing is if you take that stance good luck as you could be buying new cookers and gas valves/ fires for people out if your own pocket and can’t charge for

I get you mate

 

[Sharp Point]

if you did oversell you could be done and gas safe envolved if the customer was that way

Complete carp! Any legal establishment on this island would merit any safety based repair, regardless of whether it’s within spec.

 

[Sharp Point]

A gas leak .... is a gas leak, and may progressively get worse.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Complete carp! Any legal establishment on this island would merit any safety based repair, regardless of whether it’s within spec.

Nope and your other post your test is only valid for that day / the time your there say you have a massive gas leak a month after your not responsible/ no liability

 

[ShaunCorbs]

A gas leak .. is a gas leak, and may progressively get worse.

So do / could do boilers so you id most boilers you come across them

 

[Sharp Point]

Wasn’t the op’s initial post about panicking about being told she had a leak, I would put a hefty wager that any homeowner would react the same... to be told they had a gas leak. Now don’t get me wrong, I certainly don’t go making a meal to the custard about having a gas leak,in the view to creating extra work( as long as it’s within tolerance)
My reply to you previously, was about ‘being done’ by the gas police.

 

[JTplumbingservices]

So if in that situation, you had a 3mbar drop on a g4 metre, your conscience gets the better of you and you decide to investigate. You isolate the appliances and prove the pipework is sound. You then test each appliance individually and find the gas valve on the fire is passing. What then? Do you leave it or have to condem it?

Things like that are what the tolerances are for so as long as it was within it would be ok.. however, I would inform the customer of the situation and explain to them about the permissible drop and that it is safe to leave.. or I could repair/renew it if thats what they wanted.
This way I have covered all bases.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Wasn’t the op’s initial post about panicking about being told she had a leak, I would put a hefty wager that any homeowner would react the same... to be told they had a gas leak. Now don’t get me wrong, I certainly don’t go making a meal to the custard about having a gas leak,in the view to creating extra work( as long as it’s within tolerance)
My reply to you previously, was about ‘being done’ by the gas police.

they would say its within safe limits why did you go looking for the leak when you didnt need too

 

[Sharp Point]

they would say its within safe limits why did you go looking for the leak when you didnt need too

Maybe, but I certainly don’t think you’d ‘get done’ For being over safe.

Me personally would starting raising my brow to a 3mbar drop

 

[Harvest Fields]

With reference to the OP and as per @ShaunCorbs post. You probably wouldn’t see 0.5 on a water gauge. Bet he tested with a digital. 0.5 is perfectly acceptable.

 

[JTplumbingservices]

With reference to the OP and as per @ShaunCorbs post. You probably wouldn’t see 0.5 on a water gauge. Bet he tested with a digital. 0.5 is perfectly acceptable.

Isn’t 0.25 considered perceptible on a water gauge ? which can’t be seen so any visual movement is considered perceptible ?
And 0.1 on a digi?

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Isn’t 0.25 considered perceptible on a water gauge ? which can’t be seen so any visual movement is considered perceptible ?
And 0.1 on a digi?

0.25 on digi and 0.5 on water / it used to be

 

[townfanjon]

Jezzzz is this still going lol