Budget boiler recommendations + quote

[Ray Stafford]

Pro combi ive only seen one, it was 2/3 years old and we were pulling it out.

If you were pulling out a 2/3 yr old one, it was probably a vokera - I think they were making Pro-combi in 2010/11.

 

[Alpha man]

appreciate it mainly cos I was interested in heatline in the first place cos GSRs like the one on reviewcentre gave it 5 stars. Otherwise, how else do people like myself come to know about such boilers.

seems like I might have to increase my budget to 1200-1300

Dont forget most GSR peeps are VAT registered, so add that to the 1200-1300.

 

[kriket]

Ah - the heart of the problem.

You are thinking of a boiler as a stand alone appliance, like a fridge, or a washing machine.

It isn't.

A boiler is a component in a larger system - your central heating and hot water system. That system is complex, and every one is slightly different.

The warranty is fine IF its a boiler problem. But if the problem is caused by your system, then the warranty is void.

Just for one example - your installer on a budget doesn't flush the system properly. A bit of muck from the old system gets into the new boiler, and blocks the heat exchanger.

Why should the boiler warranty cover that?

And that's just the commonest issue.

yeah u have clarified everything for me mate. might just decide to get the part fixed for the old boiler for now until I see fit to fork out for a decent boiler with 7 year warranty and obv fitted properly by a GSR.

 

[Killy Bing]

appreciate it mainly cos I was interested in heatline in the first place cos GSRs like the one on reviewcentre gave it 5 stars. Otherwise, how else do people like myself come to know about such boilers.

Heatlines are readily available to the public, whats better than having the customer buy it, you bash it in charge £££. Ignore any issues as you didn't supply it. After a few years fold company and start anew.

or install it, soon as it goes wrong, charge through the nose to repair it.

i only install vailliants, worcester bosch and intergas boilers.
im just starting out and i lose work because i wont offer bottom line boilers, pricing me out of some work.
why?
because i intend to look after my customers.
not install a problem and get a bad rep.

as i get familiar with other boilers i might offer them!

 

[kriket]

thanks guys. also, what do u think about the british gas £400 scrappage deal. They probably charge £3000 when a GSR would do it for 1500

edit - they do

 

[Chalked]

thanks guys. also, what do u think about the british gas £400 scrappage deal. They probably charge £3000 when a GSR would do it for 1500

My next door neighbour has a british gas contract, two weeks ago his Combi, (ideal) split the heat exchanger.
Boiler not worth repairing so british gas gave him a quote with £800 discount and £400 scrapage.

The quote for a easy swap was ....... £4240.. Inc vat ... Bargain.
They put it on to knock it off.

 

[kriket]

and what about those GSRs on ebay offering to supply AND fit a 32kw Ferroli with a 5-7 year warraty for £900. (i would post link but cant and u can check listing for yourself). Again, I am not just trying to go for the cheap option. I am trying to get my head round the fact that if they are willing to cover for 5-7 years for £1000, then does it matter if the boiler is a ferroli or a vaillant? I mean sure vaillant is better brand but I will be covered the same for 5-7 years, and even a vaillant or a woscestor can go dead after say 5-7 years when out of warranty. thought?

 

[Chalked]

and what about those GSRs on ebay offering to supply AND fit a 32kw Ferroli with a 5-7 year warraty for £900. (i would post link but cant and u can check listing for yourself). Again, I am not just trying to go for the cheap option. I am trying to get my head round the fact that if they are willing to cover for 5-7 years for £1000, then does it matter if the boiler is a ferroli or a vaillant? I mean sure vaillant is better brand but I will be covered the same for 5-7 years, and even a vaillant or a woscestor can go dead after say 5-7 years when out of warranty. thought?

Not seen the eBay ad but I bet it's FROM £900 . As soon as they see the job the quote goes up.

its just to tempt you.

 

[kriket]

Not seen the eBay ad but I bet it's FROM £900 . As soon as they see the job the quote goes up.

its just to tempt you.

its not from. and the feedbacks are good so probably not a bad GSR, its probably that price cos the brand is crap. But thats what I am asking. If they are covering me for 5-7 years, what does it matter if i have a ferroli or vaillant.

 

[Ray Stafford]

Yep, I sell boilers from £39.

My entry level model is a kettle.

 

[Ray Stafford]

the feedbacks are good so probably not, its probably that price cos the brand is crap. But thats what I am asking. If they are covering me for 5-7 years, what does it matter if i have a ferroli or vaillant.

What he is saying is that "FROM" £900 doesn't mean that you can have one for £900. Its a way of getting the salesman in the door

As soon as they get on site, they find reasons to increase the price.

 

[kriket]

What he is saying is that "FROM" £900 doesn't mean that you can have one for £900. Its a way of getting the salesman in the door

As soon as they get on site, they find reasons to increase the price.

yeah I guess so. will probably go for a decent boiler but just browsing and asking questions, thx guys

 

[Ray Stafford]

You can go round in circles with this.

If it was possible to get a good quality installation, with a premium product and a long warranty at a rock-bottom price, everyone would be doing it wouldnt they?

Eventually you have to decide where the compromise is going to be.

 

[village idiot]

Hello cricket, I think there are a lot of variables you are not factoring into your proposed install? Not your fault, I admit.

The chaps on ebay will quote you £900 to supply and fit. But I guarantee you there is a SMALL PRINT somewhere. You will not know about this till you are submitted with the final bill? Yep, it may be as much as £1,900. At which point, you would wish you had used a local GSI to supply & fit the boiler of their choice.

I know of engineers who replace combi boilers for £300. Not me, not a chance in hell.

Peeps ring you and say: ''c'mon, how difficult can it be? You remove the old Combi and replace with new Combi. Easy as chips. Should take you a maximum of THREE hours.''

Really???
Old boilers had no condesate to route to a satisfactory drain off point. That has to be done. When your system was installed, there was no need for every bedroom to be kitted with a TRV. All bedrooms require one now. I could go urn but dont want to sound like a broken record.

For me to replace a Combi for another Combi, you are looking at a minimum of £1,500. That includes boiler, TRV's, flushing system, dosing with Inhibitant, fitting a TF1 Filter, RF room stat etc.

Good luck with your £900n budget. Will you find someone to do it? Yes, plenty will do it. NOT ME

 

[Ermintrude]

Please let us know how you got on, what boiler you chose and how much you had to pay for installation, would be interested to know if a GSR would do it for £300 all in

Best of luck with your search

People on here saying they work for 120 on green deal. So 300 for labour for same jobs seems pretty good? Ok registration £7. But that leaves 293. Which is a few shillings more than they usually get? Our buisness wouldn't entertain it. Cheapest combi swap we actually do is £1450. 24kw, no pipework (condensate only minimal cut and sweat stuff) and no stat.

 

[Chalked]

When they ate saying £300 all in. Surely that can't include any materials ?

Don't know how people do it and cover their overheads.

when you buy a packet of crisps you pay for more than just the potato! ( might use that at the bottom of all my posts. Lol.)

 

[GasmanxxxR1]

People on here saying they work for 120 on green deal. So 300 for labour for same jobs seems pretty good? Ok registration £7. But that leaves 293. Which is a few shillings more than they usually get? Our buisness wouldn't entertain it. Cheapest combi swap we actually do is £1450. 24kw, no pipework (condensate only minimal cut and sweat stuff) and no stat.

People who work for £120 are de-valuing our trade and themselves, its not sustainable business.

How are they gonna pay for their acs, replace van and tools and eat on £120?