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Hi i'v got a electric shower to take a look at tomorrow. it's got power running to it but no hot water. has anyone got an idea what the problem is?
Many thanks for any advise.
 
All I am saying to you is check you are insured to undertake electrical work however small you think it may be. By the way I have got a life.

Tbf bud a large part of that life seems to be winding people up.

Who in their right mind would pass up a job as simple as wiring a shower? If you get there and the cable/isolation/fuse looks dodgy then you walk away. Simple.
 
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There’s, defo, no need for a guessing game or cutting corners in gas or electrical works – you ether know how to do a job or not. Also, you have to be switched on – so you understand what you need to do on a job, otherwise you might end up on the news and will be getting a free food - in prison that is. The choice is yours.
 
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On the subject of regs, wireless electricity is just about a decade a way. No plugs, no cables, just one big control box, digitally controlled by a computer. Wonder what that will do for a sparks career?
 
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Yes that is what I said, it should be sized to suit the load and run, and increased if the run is a long one. But 10mm is now the minimum and any M.I I've read recently states this.
From a Triton MI
9.2 In the majority of installations, the cable
will unavoidably be placed in one or more
of the above conditions. This being so, it
is strongly recommended
to use a
minimum of 10mm cabling throughout
the shower installation.
9.3 In any event, it is essential that individual
site conditions are assessed by a competent
electrician in order to determine the correct
cable size and permissible circuit length.


What that basically says is stick a 10mm in and it should be fine but not always. It could require a bigger cable (16mm) or you may be able to safely use a 6mm if it is a short surface run.
That is why it is best left to those who know how to work it out to do the work and take the responsibility.
Same as gas.
 
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On the subject of regs, wireless electricity is just about a decade a way. No plugs, no cables, just one big control box, digitally controlled by a computer. Wonder what that will do for a sparks career?
I would worry more about what it would do to those living with it.
 
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I agree with what you're saying about leccy for electricians and gas for gsr's. That's why I carry 2 sparks on every job to fit everything from downlights to showers, as they know what they are doing and more importantly are qualified to do so. 10mm is the recommended cable size and when I did my stint with our local council, any tenant vacating a property that had installed a shower with under 10mm cable had to have it removed.

One I removed in Edinburgh this year was wired up to a light switch under the bath with 4mm flex and the heat had fused the copper core to the switch itself.
 
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From a Triton MI
9.2 In the majority of installations, the cable
will unavoidably be placed in one or more
of the above conditions. This being so, it
is strongly recommended
to use a
minimum of 10mm cabling throughout
the shower installation.
9.3 In any event, it is essential that individual
site conditions are assessed by a competent
electrician in order to determine the correct
cable size and permissible circuit length.


What that basically says is stick a 10mm in and it should be fine but not always. It could require a bigger cable (16mm) or you may be able to safely use a 6mm if it is a short surface run.
That is why it is best left to those who know how to work it out to do the work and take the responsibility.
Same as gas.

It's better to put 10mm cable in. A 7.5kW shower will be fine on 8mm cable. But, say a year later you are comming back to the same house - a 10kW shower needs to go in... DOH! 10mm cable has to run that. Why not to put 10mm in the first place!?
 
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It's better to put 10mm cable in. A 7.5kW shower will be fine on 8mm cable. But, say a year later you are comming back to the same house - a 10kW shower needs to go in... DOH! 10mm cable has to run that. Why not to put 10mm in the first place!?

cmon alex we left the thread a long way back, it wireless leccy and panto land now!
 
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