HALL of SHAME PHOTo`s

[Noxer]

Underfloor convecting heater

 

[dave1]

Heres another

 

[Howsie]

 

[WaterTight]

I totally didn't clock the rad was upside down. I noticed the PTFE on the threads.

 

[Howsie]

You don't want to see the flu etc...

 

[Barry98]

Can I use this pic for advertising howsie?

 

[David66316]

Nice pan connectors

 

[Destroyer2813]

Howsie you got me intreaged show us the flue

 

[Howsie]

Can I use this pic for advertising howsie?

Sure thing.

 

[SafeGasInstall]

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You don't want to see the flu etc...

good install

 

[SimonJohns]

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You don't want to see the flu etc...

Shame he never had a bandq elbow rather the the tee on the right

 

[diamondgas]

You don't want to see the flu etc...

That is too funny!!! Did you recommend a flush :rofl: I like how they've bothered to level off the clips .. neat

 

[Mike Jackson]

Went to carry out a service today. The people had only just moved in. The boiler was a 60,000 BTU/hr open flued Potterton Kingfisher II boiler. The original compartment vents had been plastered over and this imaginitive solution applied instead. I issued a warning notice and capped off the gas supply to the boiler with the customers permission. I have also Riddored it as the paperwork is loooking very dodgy.

This is the view that I got when I opened the cupboard


CQ9R0225 by Mike Jackson1, on Flickr

The instructions showed the boiler needing 212 sq cm low and 106 high from outside. 110mm soil gives around 80 so looking bad to start with, too low even for the high level vent.

Looking up inside the cupboard revealed.


CQ9R0229 by Mike Jackson1, on Flickr

So at least it's got high and low level but woefully inadequate.

I then noticed a wire coming from the longer section.


CQ9R0228 by Mike Jackson1, on Flickr

Closer inspection revealed this to be an inline duct fan which clicked on when the burner ignited. Somehow the fan has been connected so that when the boiler stat calls for heat it turns on. It was obvious that there was no proving switch because the burner lit and I then heard the fan spin up to speed. I didn't manage to work out what the bit of pump screwed to the wall was for.

Checking in the roof space revealed the kopex connected to the fan running to a vent slate.


CQ9R0235 by Mike Jackson1, on Flickr

Whilst closer inspection showed the other section connected to some rectangular ducting.


CQ9R0239 by Mike Jackson1, on Flickr


CQ9R0237 by Mike Jackson1, on Flickr


CQ9R0240 by Mike Jackson1, on Flickr

Looking outside showed a very restricted inlet for the roof vent.


CQ9R0219 by Mike Jackson1, on Flickr

The other vent was a bit better.


CQ9R0249 by Mike Jackson1, on Flickr

All in all a very imaginative solution to the problem of the blocked compartment vents but with none of the necessary safeguards.

 

[Billy Bob Bob]

fk me mike thats a terrible fit,whoever did that wants shooting

 

[SafeGasInstall]

Well done MJ

 

[diamondgas]

Good find Mike ... what's going on with the pump too....??? I hope the guy who rigged this up gets his butt kicked that's shocking!

 

[Barry98]

that to me is someone with a bit more then a DIYER experience thats someone who has a idea of gas and thought this would be adequate imho

 

[Mike Jackson]

Good find Mike ... what's going on with the pump too....??? I hope the guy who rigged this up gets his butt kicked that's shocking!

I think it may be being used as a speed controller for the fan. If I get the replacement job I'll suss out how it's all been done.

 

[tamz]

I agree with Bod. That is not a DIY job. It has been done by someone with commercial experience.

 

[galaxy_plumbing]

thanks for pics Mike

 

[REDSAW]

I think it may be being used as a speed controller for the fan. If I get the replacement job I'll suss out how it's all been done.

are you going to mount it on a plynth?
or send it to 'man-lab'

 

[stevetheplumber]

obviously a poor job but the principle isnt, a lot of internal boiler compartments were vented with duct work in the days of mexicos and you could even add a power flue to some boilers and you could have flue dilution systems if they were drawn up by an engineer
the game was very different then we could even use aftermarket generic parts on boilers you sourced you own flue etc

 

[mike-c]

obviously a poor job but the principle isnt, a lot of internal boiler compartments were vented with duct work in the days of mexicos and you could even add a power flue to some boilers and you could have flue dilution systems if they were drawn up by an engineer
the game was very different then we could even use aftermarket generic parts on boilers you sourced you own flue etc

It used to be a common thing to go to a sheet metal factory to get them to fabricate parts for flue systems, I.e balanced flue extensions or when fancy fireplaces were fitted to fire back boiler units.

 

[stevetheplumber]

It used to be a common thing to go to a sheet metal factory to get them to fabricate parts for flue systems, I.e balanced flue extensions or when fancy fireplaces were fitted to fire back boiler units.

yep that was in the days when blokes were trained properly and were trusted to do there job properly now if there isnt a rule to say you can you cant this is part of the reason for the dive in wages dumb the job down and then train monkeys its right across the building tradethe more that can be built in low pay envoirments like factories the better it used to be a case of shipping the work out to a deprived area of britain to benifit from low overheads and lower pay i remember all the joinery for one job in the 80s coming up from cornwall but now it probably goes abroad
with the improved telecoms we now have an item can be speced here and built in bombay and be her in no tim ethe beans i just\ ate for dinner were probably in peru yesterday

 

[JAP&H]

Attended a job where customer reported HW OK but no CH. Found BBU to be working fine on gravity HW pumped CH.

'Its in the boxing at the side of the chimney' was the answer to where's your pump.


You can see the pump cable lower left.


Getting closer.


Builders foam, why aren't all pumps quietened in this manner?

Pump replaced with new. Don't tell anyone but I took the short-cut of NOT firing a can of foam into the replaced boxing.