HALL of SHAME PHOTo`s

[PriestyUK]

Arh man why go to all that effort, just get a pan that fits, also I hate DIY'ers and flexi's! Swear its not even pushed in all the way. Great photo for hall of shame any how

 

[Rckape]

I was replacing a soil stack for a mate yesterday, when I was at the top of the ladder cutting out the old stack I peered over next doors' roof to see this shining example of a plume kit.

The installer had notched out the gutter perfectly to pass the flue through, supported by a bit of silicone round the gutter half way and a cable tie round the gutter at the top.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Can't tell from pics but doesn't seem any need for all that ?

 

[Rckape]

The flue is definitely too close to the opening but I'm not sure that plume kit installation was the right solution.

It does look a bit too close even with the kit.

 

[plumben]

wouldn't this weaken the pan?

 

[Millsy 82]

The installer was probably fed up of customers supplying back to wall pans when they cant physically have them!Ive had it a couple of times even after saying do not buy a back to wall pan as I cant fit one without building a false wall or running soil outside, What did I get yep 2 back to wall pans!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[rpm]

The installer was probably fed up of customers supplying back to wall pans when they cant physically have them!Ive had it a couple of times even after saying do not buy a back to wall pan as I cant fit one without building a false wall or running soil outside, What did I get yep 2 back to wall pans!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Had one this morning with a Sanislim shoehorned in behind it, luckily for me I could reach the problem area otherwise it would of meant pan and pump coming out as one. That`s fine when installing as it`s all new, empty and clean but 5yrs later it ain`t so fine for me or the customer.

 

[Millsy 82]

Had one this morning with a Sanislim shoehorned in behind it, luckily for me I could reach the problem area otherwise it would of meant pan and pump coming out as one. That`s fine when installing as it`s all new, empty and clean but 5yrs later it ain`t so fine for me or the customer.

Yuk!

 

[ShaunCorbs]

The flue is definitely too close to the opening but I'm not sure that plume kit installation was the right solution.

It does look a bit too close even with the kit.

dont think the window opens, only top opener

 

[Rckape]

dont think the window opens, only top opener

You're quite right. I've always taken it as the whole window (building opening) as that's what I was taught at college. I've just checked BS5440 and it's only the opening section of the window itself that counts - Good to know. A bit of a misunderstanding with terminology there, luckily I've never had to change my plan A on the basis of it. Every days a school day.

It does still look a bit close for the 150mm allowance for structural and temperature issues though. I know it's unlikely to cause any issues, especially with the flue temperature of modern boilers, but rules is rules.

It's the route of the kit that made me chuckle, it must have been a right pain cutting it through the gutter. At least it's not cast iron like the main roof gutter.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

You're quite right. I've always taken it as the whole window (building opening) as that's what I was taught at college. I've just checked BS5440 and it's only the opening section of the window itself that counts - Good to know. A bit of a misunderstanding with terminology there, luckily I've never had to change my plan A on the basis of it. Every days a school day.

It does still look a bit close for the 150mm allowance for structural and temperature issues though. I know it's unlikely to cause any issues, especially with the flue temperature of modern boilers, but rules is rules.

It's the route of the kit that made me chuckle, it must have been a right pain cutting it through the gutter. At least it's not cast iron like the main roof gutter.

think that was to take in effect if the window gets changed etc and still a great pic

 

[rpm]

think that was to take in effect if the window gets changed

Seem to remember an installer being taken to court because a window in a hotel was changed after the installation. It`s in an old thread somewhere.

 

[Riley]

That's the thing isn't it whatever you install shouldn't prevent a neighbour altering their property

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Seem to remember an installer being taken to court because a window in a hotel was changed after the installation. It`s in an old thread somewhere.

yea thats why if close to a window ie top open take a pic of the window with he flue in place as no come back then

 

[Riley]

yea thats why if close to a window ie top open take a pic of the window with he flue in place as no come back then

Camera phone is your friend

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Camera phone is your friend

these days especially and for you older folk a polaroid would be ok

 

[Rckape]

Seem to remember an installer being taken to court because a window in a hotel was changed after the installation. It`s in an old thread somewhere.

It just goes to show, it never hurts to be more cautious. Luckily it's never been an issue for me, I think i'll still carry on as before, but have the allowance in the back of my mind for that one job and make sure i've got my phone with me. :wink5:

 

[Millsy 82]

Seem to remember an installer being taken to court because a window in a hotel was changed after the installation. It`s in an old thread somewhere.

That was in Newquay and there was more to it than the window if I remember correctly.

 

[Keefy]

 

[Riley]

that is very dark!!!!

 

[Keefy]

that is very dark!!!!

'Very dark'? What is?

Anyway, here's another.

 

[Rickster123]

'Very dark'? What is?

Anyway, here's another.

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You northerners and your old fashioned ways...

 

[Toxic Ted]

I think yorkshire has come on a bit since then.............only a bit tho.....:1eye:

 

[dave1]

Basin mixer???

 

[1Steven]

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That a 100ft coin operated meter shilling at a time. I remember them. Oldest one I took out was 1923.