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Discuss How many people are thinking of doing renewables this year in the Renewables area at Plumbers Forums
hi kay jay when and where is it at any links? thanks
spoke to college earlier today (will not mention its name) 2399 c&g will cost over 2.5k-what a joke ,hope I could express my self here
5 days training ! they are taking a ****
Time served plumbers shouldn't be having to pay £2k to get a ticket for installing renewables of any kind. 90% of the install is the same as you have done in any plumbing related equivelant. I don't get this at all I did the solar course and all I learned was angles of the roof, sun etc positions of stats working out sizing etc. nothing difficult complete con I felt. There really is no need for certification, that was a joke no more than a tick test i got 100% and was finished in about 1/2 an hour including the commisioning list etc. Honestly it's getting ridiculous a decent set of MIs can easily cover most of what you need to know ans lets face it we were fitting solar in the eighties until gas got cheap so it's hardly new. after my last ACS I wonder about that too really.
Ialso have no qualifications in heatpumps, and I am still not MCS accredited, I have no QMS and I am not paying REAL £200 a year, However I am installing MCS accredited heat pumps and signning them off on to the MCS register, therefore I am living proof that the MCS is not fit for purpose No I am not a cowboy, but because of the insistance of this rediculous idea that renewables should be a seperate industry I am going to fight this the only way I know by refusing to join it and carry on the way I have been, there fore in the eyes of the governing bodies I must be a cowboy, Yeehaw!!!!!!!!!!!
i may be on my own here but i dont think people really understand the reasoning behind these short courses. they are there to help installers not provide an opportunity to fail. They are designed to teach people and get them the skills and knowledge required. You need to be qualified before taking these courses so its presumed you already know alot, you wouldnt agree with them testing you again surely? The assessments are not to be difficult as its only an award, as opposed to a diploma. the alternative is one of two things:
issue with them?
- Make it much more difficult to pass the course
- Not bother because we are already plumbers
The ACS is a safety course, its does not train or assess you on your skills but your safety. how many people have said to me and i presume others that the acs is rubbish as it didnt teach me to fit a boiler!!! once again its not for newbies, its for already qualified and or experienced tradesmen, we seem to want it both ways. I hear complaints of too much assessment and then its too easy????????? I think people need to understand the purpose of the qualifications before criticizing
- less people would take it or pass it and create more un qualified installers without the basic underpinning knowledge the current system gives us
- we would then complain anyone can do it, it would probably lead to more cowboys