installing a back boiler oil link up in a bungalow, anyway around it?

[tamz]

What solid fuel stove manufactorer would allow a vent only no cold feed???????

None that i have heard of

 

[Best]

None that i have heard of

That's the problem if you don't do it to MIs, or better, - no warranty, no building control approval, & not a leg to stand on!

 

[ecowarm]

None that i have heard of

Sorry Tam I was refering to this
"Connect a solid fuel boiler up with a vent and no cold feed/expansion the water will simply boil off. I know that because I've done it.
After that its stress relief time for the welds.
Did you read what peteheat wrote on the bs6700 thread? That guy knows his stuff."

 

[tamz]

Aye i read the other thread. I thought it peculiar he (Nordio) would refer to that post when it was clear to a wean with a biscuit bum what peteheat was on about :frown:

 

[ecowarm]

Exactly

 

[Nordio]

Aye i read the other thread. I thought it peculiar he (Nordio) would refer to that post when it was clear to a wean with a biscuit bum what peteheat was on about :frown:

Care to explain what he was on about then?

He wrote this...

On solid fuel stoves and wrap around back boilers we always fitted the pump on the return

Just like Mr Flux.

And then wrote

No blockage the system can still feed through the pump

Is it because he's from Ireland its ok. lol. Mr Flux is from Ireland too.

 

[ecowarm]

Ah! the central heating return to the boiler. The primary gravity is not pumped which would have Feed and expansion.

Who was it who said a little knowledge is a dangerous thing

 

[tamz]

Care to explain what he was on about then?



Just like Mr Flux.

You missed out this bit in your quote

in our old tin pot way we relied on gravity to heat the rads and cylinder upstairs and the pump was mainly for the ground floor circuit and to pump the heat around the system faster.

That said I doubt a pump is classed as a valve as the hot water can expand to safety through it.

He was not advocating what you are saying.

 

[Nordio]

Then why did he write this...

No blockage the system can still feed through the pump

 

[ecowarm]

Why did you write in bs6700 questions "Blocking the feed route? That doesn't seem like convention with a solid fuel boiler." when you have been saying there is no need for a feed in this thread?

 

[Nordio]

I was asking the question to peteheat. Ask him.

 

[ecowarm]

I would hope not Nordio when it comes to safety

 

[tamz]

Nordio can you remember a couple of years back on another site where you were saying it was fine to cap a solid fuel bbu. I answered with reference to this or a similar site ( i will find the original if you like)
HSE Safety Alert: Explosion risk from redundant domestic back boilers
Your answer was it was fine to do this as you had did it on your own house and lived alone so would only kill yourself.
Obviously your vision has not become any clearer. Keep swinging your stillsons in someone else's direction.

 

[Nordio]

Maybe not. bbu still capped btw and working fine.

 

[villa_tom]

Nordio can you remember a couple of years back on another site where you were saying it was fine to cap a solid fuel bbu. I answered with reference to this or a similar site ( i will find the original if you like)
HSE Safety Alert: Explosion risk from redundant domestic back boilers
Your answer was it was fine to do this as you had did it on your own house and lived alone so would only kill yourself.
Obviously your vision has not become any clearer. Keep swinging your stillsons in someone else's direction.

I also read somewhere tamz that this is the same on gas bbu's, do you know if there is a tech bulletin or safety notice like the one you have posted here too?

 

[ecowarm]

I have just been reading a thread on an other forum with a Tamz and Nordio discussing this very thing, Oh and everyboby thought Nordio was wrong on there as well

 

[tamz]

Gas bbu's are different. No one is going to light them if you cut the gas and power.

There was a TB about bbu's (gas) but it didn't mention drilling the exchanger. A bit like belt, braces, condom and get your mate to tell you what it was like :lol:

 

[Nordio]

I have just been reading a thread on an other forum with a Tamz and Nordio discussing this very thing, Oh and everyboby thought Nordio was wrong on there as well

What have I been wrong about on here pray tell?

 

[tamz]

I have just been reading a thread on an other forum with a Tamz and Nordio discussing this very thing, Oh and everyboby thought Nordio was wrong on there as well

Before i saw the light :lol:

 

[ecowarm]

@ Nordio Have you said anything right?

 

[Nordio]

Have you said anything right?

Fit boiler as per MI's.

 

[ecowarm]

You said that but then contravened it

 

[ecowarm]

I give up

 

[Nordio]

Nordio can you remember a couple of years back on another site where you were saying it was fine to cap a solid fuel bbu. I answered with reference to this or a similar site ( i will find the original if you like)
HSE Safety Alert: Explosion risk from redundant domestic back boilers
Your answer was it was fine to do this as you had did it on your own house and lived alone so would only kill yourself.
Obviously your vision has not become any clearer. Keep swinging your stillsons in someone else's direction.

From the link...

The risk can arise when a disused boiler has been left at the back of a fireplace and a coal or wood fire is lit in front of it. This can mean the boiler heats up causing the boiler casing to explode. If you have a redundant back boiler you should not light an open fire in front of it.

What a load of waffle. I'm living proof that this is not the case.

 

[tamz]

What have I been wrong about on here pray tell?

Not a lot but enough. You are advocating doing things that are not (yet) legal in the uk (regardless of what the MI's state). Many of these stoves and bbu's are fitted by diy persons who have no concept of the risks they face if they do it wrong. Things will no doubt change in the future and the proper controls will be widely available to buy.
Until then, in the UK we have to abide by the laws of the land.
I LOVE a T bone steak and when they banned them (mad cows) i couldn't buy one (legally) but i was well aware of the risks i ran.
DIYers are generally not too clued up so don't encourage them to jump in when they can't swim