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[dontknowitall]

The likes of Richard Branson didn't start their businesses with that sort of attitude.

 

[Puddle]

The likes of Richard Branson didn't start their businesses with that sort of attitude.

Richard Branson had some very wealthy parents behind him despite what the media like to make out and was lucky his pickle business took off !! :beatnik:

 

[samh]

Get a very good solicitor that'll recover all fees from the party that owes money and do it the legal way.

 

[vectra65]

i work by myself i pay my bills my taxes i payed for this boiler out off my own pocket to get **** on by a get of a landlord i dont own houses only one and i work bloody hard to pay for it plus i wasnt born with a silver spoon in my mouth were i live money is money and not a toy you can throw around every penny is hard graft and hard to earn

 

[sparra1100]

installed boiler 7 days ago he is refusing to pay for boiler and work done what do i do thanks

didnt ye get the money up front for the boiler

 

[dontknowitall]

Richard Branson had some very wealthy parents behind him despite what the media like to make out and was lucky his pickle business took off !! :beatnik:

I never knew that - or if I did, I'd forgotten.

 

[vectra65]

no mate i no his family and him just dis to abuse people ne knows bad idea

 

[sparra1100]

fone up transco say theres a leak and they wont let you in the,ll cap the gas from outside it cost him £2000 to get it back on

ps providing ye gas safe

 

[GQuigley67]

i would try and gain access to the household, if something you have paid for which you have the receipt and he has nothing and remove it from his house then whats the deal, you didnt force entry or anyhting like that, seen on the news not that long ago builder didnt get payed for making a canopy outside a house he turned up with sledgehammer destroyed it and took back his bricks

i know the laws the law but i have never been a man of the law anyway, cost you alot of money-stress going to courts, will be cheaper ways of getting your money/payback

 

[paul78]

Go back round and knock as i bet he aint told tenants as then they will be suspicious of him afterwards. He would never ring tenants saying dont let gas man in as it would look suspicious. tell tenant theres been a recall with make of boiler and for safety reasons your fitting a brand new one there and then, act normal even ask for a cuppa, keep them talking away with you then remove and say you will be back in 30 mins and NEVER go back! and i guarantee they wont even question it as the end of the day they aint paying. They will never ring you as its landlords resposibility to maintain property, especially a boiler in this weather. Promise it will work mate, but remove and cap safely at least.

Keep everyone posted with outcome mate.

 

[samh]

Could possibly be a problem if you go and get your boiler back if you don't return the old one you removed they could then possibly have you done for theft. Ridiculous but it is a possibility. I'd have to research it but I think it could be the case.

 

[samh]

Its a legal minefield really. If you do what paul78 suggests you can be done on a technicality to do with entering a property under false pretences or some rubbish. But TBH to get any of these up against you the landlord would need a pretty good legal team and then it isn't guaranteed. Just get in and take it

 

[dontknowitall]

I think you're correct there Samh - this is what I've been suggesting in previous posts.

Law is on the non-payer's side, unfortunately.

 

[Rob Sale]

Threaten him with a debt collection agency that report him to experian which will adversely effect him getting any buy to let mortgages. if you don't get anywhere sell the debt.

For the future I would get a solicitor to draw you a contract up, so it does not effect you in this way again. You also might want to consider Factoring finance where you issue a invoice then the finance company raise 70%-80% against the invoice. then they take their fees of the rest. But what is good about some factoring companies like VENTURE FINANCE is it, becomes their debt for the first part of the payment to you. therefore reducing the damage to your cash flow, SO ONCE YOU GOT YOUR INITIAL PAYMENT ITS YOURS TO KEEP but other factoring companies don't do this. They chase the debt.
The only down side to invoice finance is the fees 8% on invoice to you and a monthly fee.

 

[samh]

Its unfortunate indeed. You could do it and the courts would come down on your side, but your name and reputation would be damaged. You get someone googling you before ringing you to do a job it will all be around somewhere :/
I'd say do it legally by the letter, may take forever, but atleast you can't get into trouble for it. You've also learnt a valuable lesson about not buying expensive parts/materials with no deposit or guarantee that they will pay up. Some people will do anything not to pay.

 

[Rob Sale]

Has the landlord said he will give you permission to retrieve the boiler? if so get your solicitor to draft an agreement up for him to sign it so you have proof when you go to remove the boiler he can't call the police and say daft stuff. just cover yer arse m8.

 

[REDSAW]

Go back round and knock as i bet he aint told tenants as then they will be suspicious of him afterwards. He would never ring tenants saying dont let gas man in as it would look suspicious. tell tenant theres been a recall with make of boiler and for safety reasons your fitting a brand new one there and then, act normal even ask for a cuppa, keep them talking away with you then remove and say you will be back in 30 mins and NEVER go back! and i guarantee they wont even question it as the end of the day they aint paying. They will never ring you as its landlords resposibility to maintain property, especially a boiler in this weather. Promise it will work mate, but remove and cap safely at least.

Keep everyone posted with outcome mate.

exactly what i was going to say,#
but dont forget the box of bricks representing the new boiler, and take some one with you just in case.

 

[WaterTight]

If not getting this boiler back would ruin me - as in bankruptcy or out on the street - I would prob resort to getting it back and hope I didn't end up in trouble. If I thought it would be a painful mistake, perhaps lead to a difficult couple of months financially (even at christmas, i know, terrible) then I would try the legal route - but with the presumption that probably nothing would come of it.

 

[WaterTight]

Some of the best practises you develop are due to painful mistakes. I once kicked off my toe nail and broke my toe whilst running round a corner with just socks on. That was long time ago and the pain is long gone but aint no fire, nor impatient naked lady getting me running anywhere with no shoes on. After this you'll implement a policy which gives you piece of mind. Even if it's 50%-100% cost of materials up front or no dice.

 

[GQuigley67]

i just lost out on a job for a landlord, old boiler cylinder out new combi in, top floor flat so lifting all floorboards, upgrading gas from meter, got undercut by at least 600, prob B&Q boiler no room stat no gas upgrade

 

[REDSAW]

dont forget the expanding foam in the flue late at night.

 

[vinniethecat]

ALWAYS insist on a cheque made out to the merchants when they deliver the boiler to be given to the van driver (plus a couple of hundred extra to go in the pump}

Sorts out the tossers straight away, anyone honest would not jib when gear is on their premises

 

[vectra65]

going to sort this out today guys i will enjoy this

 

[PlumbBobBob]

good luck hope you get it sorted

 

[vectra65]

my son lives in hythe steve frost lane