Passable work or bodge job!?

[Riley]

And you can see they’re under. Strain Speed fit is designed for quick installation it’s not designed to be pulled on tight bends

 

[Welder]

As per Snowhead's idea above , a brace between joists and clip to that, anything buried soldered copper only.

AND taped up so any potential lime cannot pin hole the copper

 

[Keith O'KEEFFE]

And you can see they’re under. Strain Speed fit is designed for quick installation it’s not designed to be pulled on tight bends

From the original pic and the four white pipes which ones do you think are tightly bending? Just look a wee bit curved?

 

[Harvest Fields]

AND taped up so any potential lime cannot pin hole the copper

Let’s hope it is taped

 

[Keith O'KEEFFE]

Let’s hope it is taped

It's not yet but will be!

 

[Welder]

Just to point out here that I assumed the whole installation was by your plumber. If I was wrong I apologise.

If you require them to reconfigure existing pipework then you will, rightly, incur additional cost. That said, it should not be unreasonable and you will have a better safer installation as a consequence.

 

[Welder]

From the original pic and the four white pipes which ones do you think are tightly bending? Just look a wee bit curved?

Plastic pipes should not be bent as that tensions the fitting. JG fittings are allowed 5 degrees only.

 

[Riley]

The two on the right will definitely be putting strain on the oring in the fitting

 

[Keith O'KEEFFE]

Just to point out here that I assumed the whole installation was by your plumber. If I was wrong I apologise.

If you require them to reconfigure existing pipework then you will, rightly, incur additional cost. That said, it should not be unreasonable and you will have a better safer installation as a consequence.

Basically the bathroom and kitchen was first installed by different fitters and was a total bodge job. This guy has been sent to rectify and reinstall everything. The new Speedfit plastic pipe work wasn't done by this guy, he chased the radiator pipes into the wall and joined them to the existing pipes laid by the first fitters. Originally the cold water feed came straight in on plastic pipe in an arc, kinda 40 degrees or so and dropped under the floorboards, and just plastered over!

I do feel sorry for him as I'm braking his balls over everything given the first installation was a nightmare.

 

[Pickwickpick]

Be nice to him, offer him lots of tea & cake, but insist on getting the job done properly, especially seeing as his firm bodged the initial install. If he's a decent tradesmen he won't mind. You don't want to have any regrets or issues further down the line when it will become much harder to get things rectified!

 

[Riley]

If he’s there to rectify then he will understand where you are coming from. Jut lots of “I know it’s not your fault but...” and tea goes a long way.

 

[Keith O'KEEFFE]

If he’s there to rectify then he will understand where you are coming from. Jut lots of “I know it’s not your fault but...” and tea goes a long way.

All a bit frosty at the moment but not a total breakdown. We're all a bit stressed for obvious reasons. Them because they're picking up someone else's Rubbish and me because I have to make sure it's all done right this time. Thanks for all the replies and advice.

 

[Harvest Fields]

It might be worth a chat to explain what you expect and what they are doing. If they are a new company correcting someone else’s mess they should be cut a bit of slack to be fair.

 

[Keith O'KEEFFE]

It might be worth a chat to explain what you expect and what they are doing. If they are a new company correcting someone else’s mess they should be cut a bit of slack to be fair.

My thinking too, hence why I didn't go back and tell him to change the radiator flow and return pipes which curve. I reckon they'll be ok as the water pressure won't be as much as the hot/cold feeds to the shower. May come back and haunt me I know!

 

[Riley]

Are you on a sealed system?? Also as the pipes heat and cool they expand and contract this is equally disturbing to the o rings as the pipes will move. Albeit fractionally but it still moves

 

[Keith O'KEEFFE]

Are you on a sealed system?? Also as the pipes heat and cool they expand and contract this is equally disturbing to the o rings as the pipes will move. Albeit fractionally but it still moves

Combi boiler

 

[gmartine]

AND taped up so any potential lime cannot pin hole the copper

Fabric tape will do, can also be used to hold up the wall.

 

[Riley]

Combi boiler

So it’s a sealed system at a minimum of 1bar rising to 2-2.5 when hot. Up to you

 

[Keith O'KEEFFE]

So it’s at a sealed system at a minimum of 1bar rising to 2-2.5 when hot. Up to you

You've lost me on that one I'm afraid! In my mind the chances of one of the O rings popping is relatively small. Just want him to get on with the rest of the job. We're in a Victorian property, it's amazing to me all the little bodges and quick fixes hidden under the floorboards, the ceilings and walls! You can get too stressed over every minute detail of a job and it just ends up with a Soded off workman

 

[Riley]

Ok up to you but your heating could conceivably rise pressure wise to 2.5 bar which is likely higher than your incoming mains. For the sake of two elbows I’d change it. And the minute details as you call them can often be the difference between a good and a bad job

 

[Harvest Fields]

You have to do what you think is best mate. We are only giving you recommendations on how we think that it should be done. But as long as you are happy.

 

[Keith O'KEEFFE]

You have to do what you think is best mate. We are only giving you recommendations on how we think that it should be done. But as long as you are happy.

Cheers, I'll be happy when it's all in and there are no leaks. Thanks again for the guidance.

 

[Harvest Fields]

Cheers, I'll be happy when it's all in and there are no leaks. Thanks again for the guidance.

Just bare that in mind if one of the John guest push fit fitting leak later on.

 

[Burger]

In my honest opinion, I wouldn’t be concealing a speedfit joint. The copper to the radiator needs to be protected from corrosion and movement (clipped).

The water regulations state the following:

No pipe shall be embedded in any wall or solid floor without meeting certain conditions.

No pipe shall be installed in a way it may become unduly warmed.

https://www.wras.co.uk/downloads/pu...eral/para_7_guidance_version_2_july_2014.pdf/

 

[Keith O'KEEFFE]

In my honest opinion, I wouldn’t be concealing a speedfit joint. The copper to the radiator needs to be protected from corrosion and movement (clipped).

The water regulations state the following:

No pipe shall be embedded in any wall or solid floor without meeting certain conditions.

No pipe shall be installed in a way it may become unduly warmed.

https://www.wras.co.uk/downloads/pu...eral/para_7_guidance_version_2_july_2014.pdf/

Since the original picture, the plastic feed coming into the room through the wall has been changed to copper and the Speedfit elbow dropping the pipe down is now soldered copper. It switches to plastic pipe once under the floor. The plastic joint on the right hand side of the radiator flow is now in the void between the joists. Only thing that will be buried now is soldered copper piping.