Regulation issue

[Marty92]

I'm relaxed Stan. some people seem to think its acceptable to slate others for asking questions, yet when asked to back up their claims with evidence they cannot, I don't mind it's just not very helpful is it.

Ive got qualifications and professional registrations coming out of my earholes but that doesn't mean I know everything or even should know everything.

 

[AlexGas]

Get your head around Energy Efficiency Best Practice...

 

[jtsplumbing]

We all know what we should be doing to comply with the regs, but at the end of the day its what the customer can afford, work is hard enough to get hold of so you cant tell me most of you don't bend the rules to get the job ! it's ok making these rules, but the people making them don't have to pay the cost's. What do you do ,Walk away and not earn anything.

 

[Marty92]

Get your head around Energy Efficiency Best Practice...

Returning to the OP.


There is no doubt in my mind that changing the cylinder in this case is "a good idea" and I'm sure it's in a BPG somewhere, but and it's a big but, I need to establish one way or the other if it actually a requirement, so far I can find nothing anywhere suggesting that it is.

 

[SafeGasInstall]

I am with you JTSplumbing

 

[hammers4spanner]

very true in this trade you simply cant know everything single bylaw/reg or whatever

 

[hammers4spanner]

if it gets you the workn not to put cylinder in then i would do it however in a written estimate state you should have an upgrade or offer to do it at later date .
Trades to tight at the mo to be to fussy , take a leaf out of gas safe book and ignore all perils over money

 

[Marty92]

very true in this trade you simply cant know everything single bylaw/reg or whatever

The current cost for all plumbing & gas related British standards is over £17k, the GSR subscription service is worth it's weight in gold!

 

[Marty92]

if it gets you the workn not to put cylinder in then i would do it however in a written estimate state you should have an upgrade or offer to do it at later date .
Trades to tight at the mo to be to fussy , take a leaf out of gas safe book and ignore all perils over money

Chances are ill get the work in any case, I was just trying to find out if it was indeed a requirement to change the cylinder.

 

[Barry98]

Your over ten posts now so send your gsr details to gasman or Redsaw so we can continue in the private forum away from public viewing , entry questions are basic for any competent engineer

 

[SafeGasInstall]

I fail

 

[Barry98]

Yeah but we're in now stan lol

 

[jtsplumbing]

At the end of the day you cant force them to have it, we all know what best practice says, but we all don't do it, we need to earn a living, why should some faceless pen pusher dictate what people should have in there own homes, You either follow the rules to the letter and earn nothing because you will be undercut on your price, or you bend the rules and earn a living, as long as it safe and it's what the customer wants and can afford , may be different in the larger city's, but in this part of the uk money is tight .

 

[Barry98]

You don't want trvs , sign here

you don't want a thermostat , sign here

etc etc

 

[hammers4spanner]

i just note it on benchmark

 

[Marty92]

Wrong choice of words but I'm not bothered if they have it or not I'm certainly not going to force them to have it.


My main point I suppose was 3 other qualified plumbers (assumption) had told them that They MUST also have a replacement cylinder, and in truth I didn't (and still don't) know if that is a factually accurate statement or if they are simply applying what they rightly or wrongly believe to be best practice.

I must stress again this is not domestic. Though I'm not sure that changes the requirements on replacing old cylinders due to consequential improvements.

 

[SafeGasInstall]

Wrong choice of words but I'm not bothered if they have it or not I'm certainly not going to force them to have it.


My main point I suppose was 3 other qualified plumbers (assumption) had told them that They MUST also have a replacement cylinder, and in truth I didn't (and still don't) know if that is a factually accurate statement or if they are simply applying what they rightly or wrongly believe to be best practice.

I must stress again this is not domestic. Though I'm not sure that changes the requirements on replacing old cylinders due to consequential improvements.

just possibly trying it on and getting more out of it

 

[phil the bucket]

building regs state that if u replace boiler or cylinder it must be changed to fully pumped sealed system with cylinder stat and room stat .

 

[phil the bucket]

building regs state that if u replace boiler or cylinder it must be changed to fully pumped sealed system with cylinder stat and room stat . so if u replace boiler just make sure its fully pumped s plan with both cylinder stat and room stat job done .

 

[wheeto]

Your over ten posts now so send your gsr details to gasman or Redsaw so we can continue in the private forum away from public viewing , entry questions are basic for any competent engineer

Pleas don't! I enjoy reading these types of post, and it's not a gas safety matter.

 

[hammers4spanner]

building regs state that if u replace boiler or cylinder it must be changed to fully pumped sealed system with cylinder stat and room stat .

where it say that??

 

[phil the bucket]

domestic heating design guide small red book . not sure what page its on defo in there

 

[hammers4spanner]

domestic heating design guide small red book . not sure what page its on defo in there

are you having a laugh???

 

[phil the bucket]

got given the book on an energy eff course......... not having a laugh

 

[Marty92]

are you having a laugh???

I think he's winding you up!