servicing adverts £49

[Barry98]

So in other words for £49 you basically analyse a boiler ,,,,,i can do that then lol

what for £45

 

[mountainman]

I've just bought a new FGA to celebrate my shiny new CPA ticket. I test everything in sight in order to justify the extortionate cost of being allowed to work :-/

 

[Barry98]

I've just bought a new FGA to celebrate my shiny new CPA ticket. I test everything in sight in order to justify the extortionate cost of being allowed to work :-/

try passing wind on it then check the readings

 

[Halesowen1]

Yeah you take a second reading after doing anything that could affect combustion. Are you seriously telling me you wont take the case off because you dont want to do a second combustion analysis?

I am asking about 2nd flue test to you who take the casing off.
As I have said earlier, I try not to get involved with servicing, its not for me, very boring and no job satisfaction.
All I am quoting is the required standards of todays service engineers who are working for companies, very large companies like BG etc.

 

[mountainman]

I already did that.
I was undecided if the result was AR, ID or RIDDOR :-|

 

[GQuigley67]

when i breathe on my gas sniffer its IMMEDIATELY DANGEROUS

 

[tamz]

The whole idea of what a service is has been swayed by BG's idea of a "service" which in reality is nothing more than a combustion check. It is not a matter of us not doing it to other companies standards , maybe more a case of they are not doing it to ours as it doesn't fit with their business model and practices.

A look through any mi's will give a list of checks and procedures that should be carried out during a service and afaik every one of them require removing the case no matter which boiler it is.

Next time the car is in for a service maybe the mechanic will just stick his analyser up the exhaust, check the fluid levels and tell me it is fine. Not my idea of a service and not what i am paying for.

 

[Halesowen1]

But if my mechanic charged me half price and did a check to prove it is running perfectly, I would probably go with that, rather than charge at least double the price and only change a couple of £1 filters.
You see its down to choice, either pay £49 and get a certificate and a report to say its working fine, or pay £100 and get a certificate and and the same report (if you are lucky, as these guys think a old service means they dont need an analyser) to prove its working OK. Oh but yes I forgot it may also have been hoovered out.
I prefer to side with BG than you.

 

[mfgs]

Well you are wrong. You should be taking the case off and giving the appliance a visual inspection as the very least, if you arent even doing that then you are ripping customers off.

One analyser check does not comfirm that everything is "running fine", if you believe that then you have no clue about boilers and really shouldnt be working on them and declaring them safe.

 

[mountainman]

I being an old git worked for BG before it was BG. In my service it went from being a service provider to merely a sales machine and customers are falling for this rubbish
I'd be happy to keep an Ideal Mexico in service if it was safe rather than bulling the customer into a new boiler et al which will only last a fraction of the life of their existing boiler.

 

[stevetheplumber]

removing the cas on most he boilers isnt a big problem its opening the combustion chambers that you want to avoid
fga and gas rate is the important bits and a visual of the seals flue etc

 

[Halesowen1]

Well you are wrong. You should be taking the case off and giving the appliance a visual inspection as the very least, if you arent even doing that then you are ripping customers off.

One analyser check does not comfirm that everything is "running fine", if you believe that then you have no clue about boilers and really shouldnt be working on them and declaring them safe.

Not me, just British Gas, E-On etc etc, I have said a few times. I dont do servicing, I only use FGA for checking new boilers and cookers etc.
Ask BG or even GSR why you dont have to remove the casing.

 

[gaspastemania]

removing the cas on most he boilers isnt a big problem its opening the combustion chambers that you want to avoid
fga and gas rate is the important bits and a visual of the seals flue etc

wouldn't that be a gas check tho not a service?

 

[mfgs]

I have worked for BG in the past and you certainly do have to remove the case as per their servicing procedure.

 

[Halesowen1]

No, BG etc class this as a Service, as do most companies.
This is why many companies and sole traders will do a service for half the cost of others.

 

[stevetheplumber]

BG pay subbies £18.50 per service would you take the case of?

 

[Halesowen1]

I have worked for BG in the past and you certainly do have to remove the case as per their servicing procedure.

How long ago, as they dont do it now. Not according to the dozen or so BG guys who use my local merchants for parts.

 

[mfgs]

I worked for them a year ago and their procedure is to take the case off. Whether the engineers choose to or not is another matter, but I certainly did.

 

[gaspastemania]

So if your not removing the case then surely your not doing a full service as per mi's?
I was always told follow mi's not what BG decide.

 

[mfgs]

BG pay subbies £18.50 per service would you take the case of?

Yes I would.

 

[Halesowen1]

In the event of no MI's, what would a service entail in todays standards?

 

[gaspastemania]

In the event of no MI's, what would a service entail in todays standards?

Is that really the case these days tho?
With access to tinternet via most phones can easily gain accesss of sorts , besides the manufacturers helplines .failing that data tag which is normally on inside of case .

 

[desrob]

Keep seeing boiler servincing adverts for £49 advertised in my area .
IMO this cant be done properly a basic gas safety check yes but full service surely cant be possible for this price. If there is someone on here who does gas services for £49 can you explain what you offer for that because you cant be cleaning appliance properly nor chaecking over appliance adequately nor checking working parts nor offering a top up of inhibitor .Here to be proved wrong !!!!

if checked the flue gasses and they are within limited other than a visual and follow mi what more can one do.10 min £49 good money

 

[mountainman]

No MI's, No Service.
Brainless like 'No Likey, No Lighty'

Star Trek scanners are fictional 'at present'.
The way this thread is going you'd need to refer to MI's to diagnose a flat tyre on your van!!!

 

[tamz]

BG don't charge for their check it is included in the maintenance contract.

BG started with the analyser "service" about 15 or so years ago. Part of their 3 star cover was to include an annual service. As we all know balanced flued boilers generally are normally pretty clean inside, so they decided it was a waste of manpower to have someone actually strip it down. Much quicker and cost effective to "check" if it really needed servicing. So their included service really became a check. All the major contract providers are the same.

Now analysers are commonplace and actually opening a band A is only advised if the readings say so, this practice has become the norm for all boilers. Its should be called as it is though, a combustion check which is totally different from a service.

An analyser it not necessary or required to service a std boiler but it is another tool to use as part of one. You don't need to own or have access to one either, just be able to interpret the results.
Btw, anyone who sticks an analyser in an open flue boiler as an annual check and accepts the readings as being fine is off their head.