Thermal store confusion!

[gassafe]

You can't leave the custard with hot water either then whilst the heating is drained I guess?

 

[tamz]

Can a powerflush be done from the boiler flow & return?

Where would the best place be to fit a magnet filter on boiler return still?

You can still pwr flush it from the F&R at the boiler as it will just run through the store. Fit the filter on the boiler return as normal to give it a bit protection. You''ll need it. Most of the sludge gathers in the store and there is no way of getting it out unless you remove it, turn it upside down and wash it out. The store is a big neutral point. Most muck in the system is lying in there but won't be shifted by a powerflush.
Just swap the boiler as normal and wire it in as it was or swap it for a combi.

 

[tamz]

You can't leave the custard with hot water either then whilst the heating is drained I guess?

Nothing to heat it

 

[SafeGasInstall]

Just finished installing one today! It has solid fuel, solar and gas heat sources!

They really are simple to install, HW ON brings on the boiler switch live via the store control stat, pump live from the boiler powers the pump on the primary flow and return and CH ON powers the heating pump via the room stat.

Still have the solar to fit to it, along with tidying up the wiring and lagging the pipe work. This one has an external plate heat exchanger, as opposed to an internal coil.

Can you pls have me I. Your next job . No wages required I will just help out and see how it gets done ! I will book a b&b for my self for as long the job goes , please !
Kind regards
stan

 

[tamz]

It's easy Stan. You'd take it in your stride:smile:

 

[Gray0689]

As tamz said stan be no bother to you
Flow and return from boiler flow and return from stove
Then from and return to heating from store
Mains water in hot out
Vent off top
And cold feed

 

[on31ll]

Hats off to you lads ! Its boggled my mind !

To do list:
look into or buy book for thermal stores

 

[Whyme]

Hats off to you lads ! Its boggled my mind !

To do list:
look into or buy book for thermal stores

a thermal store is basically a cylinder thats full of heating water, every thing goes into it and out of it just thermally stores it for the next demand to draw off.

 

[R1CKY]

Gledhill do a multifuel thermal store called a torrent. Good for linking solid fuel into too.

Their Boilermates, Pulsacoils, Gulfstreams, are all total crap. Good ideas on paper, poor execution.

What make is that store Ricky?

Its a Gledhill Torrent Greenheat. I was a bit annoyed tbh as I thought I'd ordered one with an internal coil for the hot water, but this arrived with a pump and external plate heat exchanger.

I've worked on a loads of boiler mates and gulfstreams and they are a pain in the arse. Quality control on this was crap too, had ports incorrectly labelled, pipework not straight and things not tightened up. I turned on the mains water and the sensor shot out of its housing!

 

[R1CKY]

Can you pls have me I. Your next job . No wages required I will just help out and see how it gets done ! I will book a b&b for my self for as long the job goes , please !
Kind regards
stan

Its easy Stan honest. I'll take some better pics today.

 

[Dannypipe]

Its a Gledhill Torrent Greenheat. I was a bit annoyed tbh as I thought I'd ordered one with an internal coil for the hot water, but this arrived with a pump and external plate heat exchanger.

I've worked on a loads of boiler mates and gulfstreams and they are a pain in the arse. Quality control on this was crap too, had ports incorrectly labelled, pipework not straight and things not tightened up. I turned on the mains water and the sensor shot out of its housing!

Ah right, thought it might be a Gledhill. I've fitted one of their Torrents, but wasn't a Greenheat like that. was wrapped in white plastic.

I also do loads of Gledhill repairs. Infact they're the only units I carry a good range of spares for. I've installed a few of the BP models and the quality was a lot better than their past incarnations.....but that isn't enough to make me a fan.

Having a heat exchanger is all well and good, but you are adding more electrical elements to go wrong, pumps and sensors.

I think I prefer a coil and a blending valve. Simple.

 

[Dannypipe]

Yep 10 mm Hep round here Danny, worst one i saw had to be repiped due to sludge!

Yup, seen it myself mate. Terrible. Some of these houses are top spec in many respects and only 10 years old. Some already need a new heating system installed!

 

[stevetheplumber]

ive got a boiler mate and they are great apart from a very exspensive tmv i keep meaning to adapt it to use normal tmv but its one of those jobs you put of untill it packs up again and when it does its easier to bite the bullet and buy one

 

[Dannypipe]

ive got a boiler mate and they are great apart from a very exspensive tmv i keep meaning to adapt it to use normal tmv but its one of those jobs you put of untill it packs up again and when it does its easier to bite the bullet and buy one

You have a Boilermate III Steve? They were ok.

 

[Whyme]

my latest solid fuel/boiler thermal.

 

[TBServices]

View attachment 11974 my latest solid fuel/boiler thermal.

Is that a flue in a void?! Naughty naughty lol

 

[Whyme]

haha no it aint. the whole things on a frame and studded so its going behind and up, good call if it was though.

 

[TBServices]

haha no it aint. the whole things on a frame and studded so its going behind and up, good call if it was though.

Didnt think it would be. Nice work buddy!

 

[SafeGasInstall]

View attachment 11974 my latest solid fuel/boiler thermal.

Excellent work , pls let me know when you do your next one will come and help doing it , just want to Lear how it's done and operates !

 

[Gray0689]

Stan you would have no problem doing one
Honestly they are not complicated

 

[SafeGasInstall]

I am sure I will be ok , just need the experience of doing one and get to know there controls and commision one !

 

[Dannypipe]

Some very nice work on show!!

 

[R1CKY]

Whyme, how do you find the EcoEquipped ones to fit? I did consider one, but decided against it because I'd not heard of them. I won't be fitting a Gledhill next time!

 

[Whyme]

Whyme, how do you find the EcoEquipped ones to fit? I did consider one, but decided against it because I'd not heard of them. I won't be fitting a Gledhill next time!

there fine pal, the boss gives them the spec we need and the tappins are put where needed. quite expensive (tbh the people who have them arent short of a few bob) but bespoke to fit so no probs.

 

[Whyme]

Excellent work , pls let me know when you do your next one will come and help doing it , just want to Lear how it's done and operates !

these jobs are few but if i get another i'll give you a heads up.