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Vaillant Plus 831 v Ideal Vogue Logic Plus 40KW v Worcester Si Compact 30 KW

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Sometimes those fill loops only come with one iso valve! You have to fit check valve on return or the loop cannot be disconnected otherwise!!
 
Logic plus and vogue come with Iso valve on heating and ISo check valve and removable link as standard. If you have had a boiler with incomplete or defective one call ideal and they will happily send you a replacement. The early logic plus filling assembly (blue knob and u shaped link) had and issue with the check valve sticking and not allowing water to pass in to system. Mostly the 2010 models
 
vern said:
Yeah sorry you did'nt get paid pal, I will send you some clips in post as compo :devilish:
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If you could champ that would be ace. I though that this install was one of my best to date was even going to submit it to the gas safe inspector but you boys have sunk that battleship. Anyway chaps I'm off to resume my old vocation of chewing bread for ducks.
 
Hi All,

Sorry about the delay in updating everyone .. the boiler didn't come in end yesterday but ended up coming today so we have now had that fitted .... I still don't like the pipework - the new gas pipe is upgraded now. Someone needs to tell me what needs doing to correct the pipework issues - I understand there should be a valve fitted somewhere?????

Even if the pictures I paste can be annotated and sent back that would be a great help ...... The guy is a nice fella, but I want this done correctly..



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Yes I know the flexible part should be up against the wall ...
 
GasmanxxxR1 said:
Zebedy, i think your being a little critical of the engineer, let him finish the job before you rip it to shreds, yes it looks rough but he might be fairly new to the game and its not finished yet
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Hmmmmm well he isn't new to the game ... and this is worrying me !
 
croppie said:
Hopefully there is a gsr and it's not the op chancing his arm with us.

Not easy to tell but I'm watching this one see how it pans out!
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I'm not an op if that's what you are asking ....

Is there someone in the South West part of London here who wants to come and actually look and verify ....???
 
Zebedy de gas said:
Ok so how was the installer going to make good the old flue hole behind the boiler after he hung it? Make the external opening so huge he could get access? Or just crumple up template and shove in..... Ideal templates are card so it's much harder than with a Baxi.
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Good point !!
 
novicegas said:
Why was the reskim not done before hanging the boiler? It'll never be done now and it'll always look poor. Will painting the pipes add more strength to the runs, negating the use of clips, could be one excuse for not using even one! That much burn for what looks like a pressure relief is poor newbie or not.
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Tbh to keep costs down as I've already had to get some new rads in some rooms. Also, we're tiling and creating a box around the pipe work so it'll be hidden behind all this ....
 
I'm surprised no one mentioned the two little screws holding up the bracket for this big heavy boiler lol 😛
 
And that pipework is a mess if I'm honest. Looks a right mash up, I don't care what anyone says.
 
APPlumbing said:
I'm calling DIY job. And for that reason I'm oooout!
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WOW okay .... Do I need to post a picture of the guys van tomorrow to prove it's not me? I don't want to put the guy out of business but I will if need be!

I actually need some advice please as when I asked him about the valve he didn't think it was necessary!
 
I don't want to offend. But who in their right mind employs a person to work on a gas appliance in their home when they clearly have a total lack of trust or faith in their abilities?! Honest opinion is the work doesn't look great. But you know that. It doesn't take an "expert" to spot that. So why are you persevering? Cheapness?
 
I think you are an air con or refrigeration guy? 2 things how did you get pictures of an incomplete install, there's is no pressure in the boiler when pics were taken, so you either blatantly did this infront of " your guy" or you fit it yourself, swaging of pipes in the 2 trades mentioned above is thier trick, I know some GSR's do this but most use sockets!
 
APPlumbing said:
I don't want to offend. But who in their right mind employs a person to work on a gas appliance in their home when they clearly have a total lack of trust or faith in their abilities?! Honest opinion is the work doesn't look great. But you know that. It doesn't take an "expert" to spot that. So why are you persevering? Cheapness?
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He was recommended ! We were getting a new kitchen and I thought it would be a good time to get the boiler done! The reason I can take the pictures is because I actually live here .... he's been each day to redo the floor in the kitchen, fix the ceiling, plaster, power flush etc

Perhaps it's my mistake for picking someone who can do pretty much everything and I should have gone for just someone who does boilers ...
 
vern said:
I think you are an air con or refrigeration guy? 2 things how did you get pictures of an incomplete install, there's is no pressure in the boiler when pics were taken, so you either blatantly did this infront of " your guy" or you fit it yourself, swaging of pipes in the 2 trades mentioned above is thier trick, I know some GSR's do this but most use sockets!
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See my previous post on how I got the pictures ....
 
gassafe said:
I'm surprised no one mentioned the two little screws holding up the bracket for this big heavy boiler lol 😛
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Ideal supply it with two 8mm coach bolts and plugs that's it. We use six 150mm concrete hex screws
 
Your fitter some sort of cretin? The valves on heating and hot water are back to front. Check valve (long one ) goes on cold water and short one on heating! Read the mfrs instructions!!!!!!!! Bit of paper comes in packet with filling loop showing orientation !!!!!!!!
 
Zebedy de gas said:
Yeh vogue and logic same flue system. Pipe work same at bottom I think.

The daylight coming through behind the bracket is a bit of a problem though. Wall should be made good inside and out. Not permitted to have a vent or penetration within 300mm of a flue.

Get the holes filled then get your self a free gas safe inspection because your fitter is a !!!!
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I'd like to get a free gas safe inspection after all the comments on here but from this link: Free gas safety inspection

It states " We will select work for inspection from the nominations submitted and if your property is selected we will contact you within six months to arrange a site visit. Unfortunately we cannot inspect every installation and therefore advise that your property may not be selected for inspection and you may not be contacted. "

I'd like to be certain of getting one - is there any other way?
 
Your fitter is a cretin. The filling loop is still wrong. Long one on cold short one on ch. is he blind? In the packet he got bits out of is a diagram, it's in the book, even the freakin valve is labeled.

Swaged joints are a bit of a strange one, a soldering westco 15mm coupler costs me 11p. Is lad gas safe? Just go on website and check .... Please for your and your family's sake!
 
Yes call gas safe tell them you think your installation is unsafe after speaking to a qualified you would like to raise a complaint about the installer..... Oh but he will probably only get a letter from GS . Hope he's got a flue gas analyser!
 
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