Woolwich killing

[Howsie]

188 - already proved not to be true.

 

[Howsie]

Ahhhh they are post number?

Or maybe they are not.

 

[Howsie]

Originally Posted by hammers4spanner
They did do this with the bnp and it turned out the majority of the names linked had absolutely no link's what sp ever to the bnp . This anonymous lot are a bincj of dangerous idiots

Re. your first statement: I did not know that and haven't read that. Where have you read this?

So I can't find any information on the net regarding this. You say it's true and yet you can't show me a link.

Wind and sails.

 

[Keefy]

Just found this but can't be bothered reading it, just woke up. BBC NEWS | Politics | Griffin says leaked BNP list fake


May find another article on whether it was [mostly] fake or not here: https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=a...ce=lnt&tbs=cdr:1,cd_min:2009,cd_max:2012&tbm=

 

[Howsie]

Ta. That link doesn't seem to work on my phone so I'll have a look later at home.

 

[Keefy]

Ta. That link doesn't seem to work on my phone so I'll have a look later at home.

Might be because I use the Firefox browser. Anyway, just put in your search term and set a custom date range like 2009 to 2012 or something it omits recent search results.

 

[Howsie]

Just found this but can't be bothered reading it, just woke up. BBC NEWS | Politics | Griffin says leaked BNP list fake


May find another article on whether it was [mostly] fake or not here: https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=a...ce=lnt&tbs=cdr:1,cd_min:2009,cd_max:2012&tbm=

Sorry but if anything, all I can find is date which suggest it was true. Wikileaks' 10 greatest stories - Telegraph

 

[hammers4spanner]

Sorry but if anything, all I can find is date which suggest it was true. Wikileaks' 10 greatest stories - Telegraph

suggests can you find truth please?

revert to your earlier posts regarding your views on media please

 

[Howsie]

Well I've yet to find anything substantial the WikiLeads has reverlas that isn't true; would kind of shoot themselves in the foot don't you think? Couple that with the it's on their top ten, I think I rest my case.

The whole point of me asking in the first place is because people don't question anymore, just read the headline and assume it's fact. The fact that I can only find a line to the NF saying its crap tells me it's true.

I'm all for reasoned debate and there hasn't been for the last few pages.

The defence rests. :earmuffs:

 

[Keefy]

The news channels and newspapers we have in this country are constantly trying to manipulate the way we think and tell us who and how we should judge. Whenever I read or watch the "news" I take it with a pinch of salt and cross reference several sources on the same piece of news. Most of the time I come to the conclusion that our beloved and un-controlled news outlets are a lying bunch of evil *******s.

 

[Howsie]

They are indeed and they thrive on unsubstantiated headlines. A friend of mine works for a tabloid and there is loads of stuff you wouldn't believe that is suppressed because the perp 'knows' people. IMHO news should be read holistically and an opinion formed from there, sadly most people believe what they read from one source and their opinion is set in stone and they will defend it beyond all reason.

Q.E.D.

 

[hammers4spanner]

Well I've yet to find anything substantial the WikiLeads has reverlas that isn't true; would kind of shoot themselves in the foot don't you think? Couple that with the it's on their top ten, I think I rest my case.

The whole point of me asking in the first place is because people don't question anymore, just read the headline and assume it's fact. The fact that I can only find a line to the NF saying its crap tells me it's true.

I'm all for reasoned debate and there hasn't been for the last few pages.

The defence rests. :earmuffs:

A change of tune from earlier posts then

beep beep beep

 

[Howsie]

A change of tune from earlier posts then

beep beep beep

Explain please.

 

[hammers4spanner]

your earlier posts about media supressing and fabricating lies ,

now you decide its true??

what exactly is your defence?

defence of?

 

[Howsie]

your earlier posts about media supressing and fabricating lies ,

now you decide its true??

what exactly is your defence?

defence of?

Because you can't suppress the Internet and there isn't anything I've read to support your point.

 

[Keefy]

They are indeed and they thrive on unsubstantiated headlines. A friend of mine works for a tabloid and there is loads of stuff you wouldn't believe that is suppressed because the perp 'knows' people. IMHO news should be read holistically and an opinion formed from there, sadly most people believe what they read from one source and their opinion is set in stone and they will defend it beyond all reason.

Q.E.D.

Know a couple of journalists/writers myself, one of whom used to do the local papers' articles on Liverpool FC but unbeknown to most people he's actually a die-hard Everton fan. Works for the Daily Liar now.

Another thing is most people take the 'breaking news' as fact and forget to check months or years later the little two paragragh side column that completely blows a hole in the original 'breaking news STORY'. All but one (maybe two?) 'thwarted terror attack by the FBI' on US soil since 9/11 has ended in admissions that they carried out the attempted attack themselves - sting operations if you like, except using innocent people.

 

[Howsie]

EDL rally in Cardiff tomorrow. Need I say more?

 

[Howsie]

Got to love Queenie http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22725999#TWEET774216

 

[hammers4spanner]

Because you can't suppress the Internet and there isn't anything I've read to support your point.

yes you can its surpressed in many countries

can you explain why you decided to post at 114 and not previous?

you also avoided my question

 

[hammers4spanner]

what are my points??

 

[hammers4spanner]

The news channels and newspapers we have in this country are constantly trying to manipulate the way we think and tell us who and how we should judge. Whenever I read or watch the "news" I take it with a pinch of salt and cross reference several sources on the same piece of news. Most of the time I come to the conclusion that our beloved and un-controlled news outlets are a lying bunch of evil *******s.

totally agree its a very good way to brain wash a populace through media , fortunately am well travelled enough and have seen what crap goes on in the world

 

[Howsie]

yes you can its surpressed in many countries

As we're discussing the EDL and the UK then what can be done with the Internet in Mali or elsewhere in the world is irrelevant. Is your response argumentative on purpose or just swerving my response again?

 

[Howsie]

yes you can its surpressed in many countries

can you explain why you decided to post at 114 and not previous?

you also avoided my question

Can you at least phrase a question properly so that this thread doesn't end up looking like a school playground?

 

[Howsie]

 

[Gray0689]

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Was thinking you'd look like that