Woolwich killing

[REDSAW]

i hope they force feed them pork for the next 20 years, suffer from bum sores every day and the damn government close the chuffin boarders and deport them all.

 

[on31ll]

Oh no they wouldnt condem it ! Can you just imagine goin over there shouting at there army that there murderers and then spitting in a soldier face ?

If i even planned to build a church in most of there countries they would try to behead me ! Its a disgrace ! They way they killed the lad is terrible !

It ****es me off that this young soldier died in fear walking round the corner from the barracks ! But even if we beheaded the people who did it because there so deep in beliefs they wouldnt even be in fear !

 

[mfgs]

The majority of muslims are fine, but these muslim extremists and bloody nutters. I don't understand why we let them protest on the street saying how much they hate Britain and telling us all that we will burn in hell etc. No other country would actively let people walk the streets preaching hatred of the country they are in, we are too tolerant and a soft touch. We let these people burn our flags, turn up at funeral processions of our war heroes to celebrate the fact they are dead. It is disgusting what we allow people to get away with, can you imagine Christians turning up to an Islamic country and being allowed the same freedom of speech/provocation?

 

[on31ll]

Can you imagine what would happen is english men did this in one of their countries ?

 

[on31ll]

Over there youd get beheaded over here we have to pay for them to go to prision and a extra cushy one because they will get picked on

 

[Resolute]

It's easy to say that we wouldn't be allowed to practice our beliefs in a Islamic state etc. it's true but but freedom is part of what makes Britain Great. Unfortunately we do tolerate too much and tied up with too much bureaucratic red tape.

What makes it worse is that all the bystanders decided to film it on phones rather then rip the the Gil perpetrators limb from limb.

There is no place in society (ours or any others) for people like this and it will cost the UK taxpayer millions to keep them safe whilst they serve time in jail. We need to wake up and realise that there is no chance of rehabilitation for people like this and bring back capital punishment.

 

[on31ll]

But i dont think freedom is what makes this country great ! Infact i dont think this country is too great the state its in ! It doesnt go againest my freedom to knock immigration on the head ! Its not againest my freedom if the commit a crime send them back home !

What is againest my freedom is them changing the way i like b there was a kick up around my area about 2 years ago saying muslims where complaining about christmas decorations ! Ha ha that is my freedom ! Its my country ! Were not free ! I cant go into the road and shout anything i want

 

[on31ll]

Bring back death penalty ! Look at the killer for tia sharp ! That young girl killed by a man who lived with her nan ! Hidden in her nans loft. And he wont tell the police or family what he actually did or how he killed her or why ! He even pleaded on tv !

Tia sharps dad is trying to get death penelty back ! And i would happily sign the petition !

 

[REDSAW]

australian gov't have my admiration..

the bnp party have now gained 1%

 

[Resolute]

Your right, our freedom is being restricted as we tolerate others but they do not respect us.

However, would you rather live in a country where there is no freedom. Where women and children are treated as objects and are often subjected to rape and assaults?

Don't get me wrong, I'm trying to defend anyone. This type of extremism cannot be tolerated and there is no place in society for it and too many do-gooders will not allow capital punishment back for this type of behaviour.

 

[Billy Bob Bob]

hang the *******s by the neck,tough message got across take a life.pay with yours

 

[Nostrum]

No excuse for not allowing the death penalty (testicles in boiling water followed by being driven over with a steam roller from the feet up at approx 0.5mph) for this type of crime. There is no possibility of them having the wrong person for the crime.

The more we let these type of crimes continue, and allow idiots to stay in the country and avoid deportation because of eu human rights loop holes etc, the more we will become a racist society. In the end it will lead to civil war.

 

[Killy Bing]

I hope this doesn't blow up, i have friends who are Muslim and also friends from other religions .
I feel sorry the minority brand the majority.

Personally i think there should be the death penalty and harsher sentances.

My friend was killed by a woman texting on her phone in a 4x4 as he crossed a zebra.
she got 7 years and has just been released after 3!
where is the justice in that ?

rapists and killers usually serve half their time now and are back on the street.

I admit this country is very very well cared for but people smile in court now when they get 7 years, they know they will be out in 3.
They wouldent be smiling when that hammer hits and off to death row now would they.

I feel for that poor soldier so much, i think he would have died happy fighting for his country in afgan.
Not run down in his countrys capital and hacked up to make a statement.

 

[on31ll]

No i wouldnt want to live in a country without freedom but we are not free ! As saod we are restricted by others coming into this country ! Just seen a video from that girl that makes documentries and shes gone back to luton and all the muslims walking the streeta protesting shouting police go to hell !

If you disrespect a soldier a policeman or anyone with power ypu should be punished ! If you spat at a soldier in northern ireland back in the day theyd smash your head in !

Im all for english jobs for english people ! And if you come to the country ypu may have your own belief but you cant take over ! You cant change everyone else pr the country ! There are rules !

 

[Plum Bob 66]

I wonder if gay marriage is still high on Canerons agenda now?

 

[on31ll]

I bet certain people on the forum are hoping it is ! Not naming zeberdee in any way

 

[on31ll]

Anddddd.... 2000

 

[hammers4spanner]

I wonder if gay marriage is still high on Canerons agenda now?

course it is

give it a week

This country has been failed by poor politicians out for their own political gain

 

[markfxy]

Why did it take the police take so long to get there, bet they were too busy stopping motorists to worry about some poor soldier dyeing in the street.

 

[zeebeedee]

Reading these comments I realise just how liberal I am. Theses events where shocking but let's not confuse 2 nut jobs with 60 million odd Muslims. I like to think we live in a free(ish) country where anybody can air there views regardless of who it offends! Imagine loving in North Korea for example!

I have a wide range of friends Muslim black chinesse gay I'd hate it if they had to suffer for prejudice brought on by two people terrible actions.

Hitler lost the war the facists where defeated lads lets keep it that way.

 

[R1CKY]

The death penalty should NOT come back. No human being has the power to decide who lives and dies. What should happen is that life sentences should be just that, LIFE, they should die in prison. The Government need to pull their fingers out of their arses and start deporting these radical preachers and seriously tighten up on immigration. They should take note of Australia and only let those in who have something to offer the country!

I feel sorry for the Muslim population in this country, they are a peaceful race and these extremists are just hiding behind it. I'm growing increasingly fed up with this country and I'm seriously thinking about leaving.

 

[Nostrum]

Hitler started a war, lets not confuse that with patriotism or sticking up for your own human rights. Multi culture society's are flawed by religious extremism at the moment on both sides of the fence. We are typically territorial beings like everything else on the planet, so why attempt to push for something that is so un-natural.

It's simple, if we can live together peacefully then fine. I we can't then split up or there will be blood spilt. That applies for every country in the world but NOT excluding our own,we seem to be the only one forced to bite own tongue and get on with it.
We are talking in some instances about people coming from mud huts and murder being a way of life for survival, to being expected to live in a massive city and do as your told, its not going to happen, and I'm not being racist, its fact.

i'm sick and tired about hearing how someone who's originates from half way around the world is not being allowed to express the human rights or opinions when it has a direct adverse effect on everyone else's quality of life. National health service is a prime example, pushed to the max because of an increased head count ( amongst other things )

and before anyone accuses me of being a racist, zip it. I don't hate the race, I hate the criminal activity you bring to this country. Keep your head down and pay your way and I've no problem whatsoever.

 

[Masood]

For what it's worth, guys, the vast majority of Muslims are shocked, horrified and heartbroken at the rise of Islamic extremism. I'm not a practising Muslim, haven't been for a very long time, but my whole family and community are still pretty devout.

Let's be absolutely clear about one thing. These animals are NOT Muslim. Nothing in the Qur'an, or the teachings of the Prophet encourage or condone the targeting of innocents, nor this form of vile behaviour.

But let's also be clear - extreme violence is not restricted to those who carry it out in the name of Islam. Japanese POW camps, Nazi concentration camps, kneecappings in Ireland, "Bolivian neckties", "Soweto necklaces", "special interrogation" in Guantanamo... the list is long and pretty f*&%ing horrendous.

My point is, no matter how angry this makes you, no matter how ghastly the actions of these animals, please don't let them win. As soon as people start feeling hatred towards a whole section of the population, they have won. They have got inside your head and planted the seeds of hatred and conflict. And that is what they want. Let's condemn the perpetrators, not whole sections of the community, who are as much the victims of this as you are. There will be repercussions, and a backlash. And those who will suffer those consequences will not be the cowardly *******s who crawl out of their sewer to do this kind of thing, but the innocents who get wrongly tarred with the same brush...

Peace..
Masood

 

[secret squirrel]

For what it's worth, guys, the vast majority of Muslims are shocked, horrified and heartbroken at the rise of Islamic extremism. I'm not a practising Muslim, haven't been for a very long time, but my whole family and community are still pretty devout.

Let's be absolutely clear about one thing. These animals are NOT Muslim. Nothing in the Qur'an, or the teachings of the Prophet encourage or condone the targeting of innocents, nor this form of vile behaviour.

But let's also be clear - extreme violence is not restricted to those who carry it out in the name of Islam. Japanese POW camps, Nazi concentration camps, kneecappings in Ireland, "Bolivian neckties", "Soweto necklaces", "special interrogation" in Guantanamo... the list is long and pretty f*&%ing horrendous.

My point is, no matter how angry this makes you, no matter how ghastly the actions of these animals, please don't let them win. As soon as people start feeling hatred towards a whole section of the population, they have won. They have got inside your head and planted the seeds of hatred and conflict. And that is what they want. Let's condemn the perpetrators, not whole sections of the community, who are as much the victims of this as you are. There will be repercussions, and a backlash. And those who will suffer those consequences will not be the cowardly *******s who crawl out of their sewer to do this kind of thing, but the innocents who get wrongly tarred with the same brush...

Peace..
Masood

I agree with you 100%, as angry as I am a knee jerk reaction is not the right thing.

 

[secret squirrel]

Why did it take the police take so long to get there, bet they were too busy stopping motorists to worry about some poor soldier dyeing in the street.

Unfortunately, not every police officer is armed therefore they need to wait for an armed response team which can be traveling quite some distance, sad but true.