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The plumbers I contacted we so busy I had to wait 2 weeks for them to find a 1 day slot to change my combi.
Some plumbers were busy up till Feb 2012!
There is no shortage of work, just a shortage of plumbers. Well - Hampshire anyway
 
Agree with Simon . If you wanted to negotiate you could have asked for a trial period, your post came across as you being 'willing' to work for 100 a day, if i got offered 100 a day I would walk over hot coals for the chance, but I would never fish for work asking for 100 a day. And in reply to earlier person saying about could easily reach 100k you are right, IF THE WORK WAS THERE!

If i turned around and said £100 a day but negotiable then if anybody had taken it seriously they would have rung up and said "£30 per day, you said negotiable"
 
Can you please tell me how I am going to eat and drive to work every day?
How would I pay a plumber with no money coming in?
And all the other prople on here have only just completed level 2 NVQ or Tech Cert and looking for training, I am not asking for training, what I am asking for is experience.
no ... i would not employ a fast tracker, especially one with a chip on ones shoulder...or and your too dear for someone with little experience
 
My apologies, it said 50k. Jase if you can get the work mate I would happily go round and collect money for you. My post wasnt intended to rip you, just a bit of constructive criticism. I am new to plumbing and I am in pretty much in the same boat as you, but I am doing ok working for myself, anything that is too big for me, I get my friend to help who is a plumber, anything I feel comfortable doing I do myself and slowly I am getting busier. With regards to getting quotes wrong, just go in with what you feel the job is worth, don't sell yourself short just to steal work, but don't charge the earth neither, it's hard to find a balance but dot expect to be stacked out, especially London there is so much competition
 
The plumbers I contacted we so busy I had to wait 2 weeks for them to find a 1 day slot to change my combi.
Some plumbers were busy up till Feb 2012!
There is no shortage of work, just a shortage of plumbers. Well - Hampshire anyway

True True.

I go to customers and they say they rung 5-6 plumbers and that its a 2-3 month wait for a days work.
I speak to plumbers and they say booked for 2-3 months ahead.
Yet there is a shortage of work.
 
True True.

I go to customers and they say they rung 5-6 plumbers and that its a 2-3 month wait for a days work.
I speak to plumbers and they say booked for 2-3 months ahead.
Yet there is a shortage of work.

If there is no shortage of work. You got a van. As they say down my way. On your bike
 
http://www.ukplumbersforums.co.uk/members/ian1964.htmlIan1964 you assume those jobs come along every week but they don't. You're also forgetting to subtract tax, ni, insurance and other overheads of which there are many.

jase158 your constant bleating about people being rude is really tiresome, no one was rude or abusive to you and neither did they rip into you. I get that you're a bit thin skinned but that's no one else's fault but your own.

The only way you'll make money in this game is to be business savvy and have the experience to not make costly mistakes. You're finally realising why a piece of c&g headed paper isn't the key to a prosperous future, don't blame us for the state of the market.
 
I got about 4 quotes for simply replacing my combi with a new one, and the best quote was 2000.
The parts were only just over 1000, so I paid about 900 labour for a couple of blokes to fit the boiler.
They started at 8am, and 7 hours later the job was done.
So that is 450/day labour / person
2000 per week if they keep it up
So based on that job, its 100k per year.

British gas quoted 3400 for the job, and the other quotes I got were all well over 2k.
When I told them the parts were no more than 1100 max, they said there was other work involved, and estimated 1 day for 2 people. Installation couldnt have been simpler. Just a boiler and some in line water conditioners.

So based on this, I recon a plumber could reach 50k per year very easily.

My reply is off topic but there's much less profit than implied in this post.
 
I got about 4 quotes for simply replacing my combi with a new one, and the best quote was 2000.
The parts were only just over 1000, so I paid about 900 labour for a couple of blokes to fit the boiler.
They started at 8am, and 7 hours later the job was done.
So that is 450/day labour / person
2000 per week if they keep it up
So based on that job, its 100k per year.

British gas quoted 3400 for the job, and the other quotes I got were all well over 2k.
When I told them the parts were no more than 1100 max, they said there was other work involved, and estimated 1 day for 2 people. Installation couldnt have been simpler. Just a boiler and some in line water conditioners.

So based on this, I recon a plumber could reach 50k per year very easily.
you forgot to ad the boiler manufacturers turn out these boilers for £135 each after cost so are making over £600 profit each. not,
your assuming it is all profit mate, ask your boss at work 'why pay me so much when your time is free'?. then have a wee think of what your saying.imo.
 
With regards to paperwork, im self employed have a young son of 14 months old sometimes i leave for work before he gets up and sometimes i dont get home till hes gone to bed and sometimes i miss bedtime going to look at jobs and then paperwork to try and fit in as well but i find the time, wanna do the best i can to make my business grow and earn the best i can to support my family.
 
have fun argueing with yourselves as too bored now, playing with words is a fun game but not really my cup of tea,

How many Plumbers does it take to say No.........
 
paperwork is the aspect of the job that bothers me the least. it doesn't involve kneeling down or fighting with some stubborn fitting, if you put it off for a few days nobody phones you up and complains and if you are so inclined in can come with a sit down, some music and a side order of oven chips.
 
I think the problem is with work is the sort of work people want to do and what pays.

If someone wants a whole house heating system renewed, boiler, rads, timers etc there is a lot more profit in this than say changing a set of kitchen taps. Obviously. So, when people say I had to wait 3 weeks to get a plumber, what sort of job is it?

I know a plumber who will not touch the small stuff, just doesn't need it or want it. Thankfully. He gives these customers my number, in return, I give him the boilers (not the two legged type!). It works well, if he gets a job that is a bit too much for one, I take a few days out my diary and work for him.

He can't employ me full time (certainly wouldn't want him to, I like working on my own), even doing the small stuff. Lets say a kitchen tap, relatively straight forward with flexi's (if you use them) lets call it £100 job, it all goes a bit wrong, drain tank, air locks blah blah. Maximum half a day, so, £100 is good (IMO).

The problem is Jase that he would have paid you £100 and may not have anything else for you to do. So, in real terms your earning more than the guy employing you.

I don't believe what customers tell me, I've phoned 6 plumbers no one's interested etc. more like the customer won't pay what is being asked!

Just a small point, not wanting to get into the boring old debate, fast trackers are rubbish, I'm a time served dinosaur etc etc.

Although the older fast tracker has a lot to offer the established plumber, over a 16 year old muppet on his phone all day, unwilling to help, unreliable etc, there is a hell of a lot to learn the tricks of the trade, how to hang a rad quickly and accurately (not the college way), I certainly didn't get paid well by my friend when I started, I do get paid more now though, although still not £100 but certainly the knowledge, experience is well worth it.
 
Jase you need to take a step back and decide whether this lark is for you because SE plumbing doesn't seem compatible with your personality.

You need to take the blinkers off and forget everything you've been told by the fast track training centre.Now you've seen why we get so wound up by the nonsense the media spews about plumber's earnings. It's created a myth that isn't harmless, people like yourself are spending a lot of money for a piece of paper that's worthless if it isn't backed up with a massive amount of hard work to get off the ground.
 
i will take you on mate and I will pay you £100 a day ,just contact me next year ! I will help you and i will train you up
 
22 browsers now, you certainly know how to pull in the viewers jase, ever thought about working for the BBC? :bucktooth:
 
I was surprised at this post. Jase didn't appear "Plumbers Mate" going by his posts. Hope it works out for you mate.
 
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