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[SimonJohns]

Thank you, might try that with local plumbers

hope all goes well for you

 

[jase158]

you can get someone who would be able to do more than you for £100 a day though, £100 is too much

I was working with a chap for a few weeks before i got NVQ and I was getting £100 a day for labouring, the other guys had a few years experience behind them but no formal qualifications and they were earning £200 a day.

 

[tamz]

Jase your perception of how things work are a bit off.
Most guys on here are 1 man bands or maybe up to 5 guys.
A 1 man band will hopefully fill his week but most likely not. The bigger ones who employ people will still struggle to fill the week to keep everyone busy unless they have contract work which even that can drop like a stone with little to no notice.
For the 1 man band, if things start getting too busy, he may just work 7 days a week or pass a bit work to someone he trusts. The bigger ones will offer overtime to the lads for a short time or get an agency in (if they are brave) but if it is continual then start someone. Sometimes it is better to knock the extra work back.
At one time i had 9 men with me and made less money than i do now. Things are not always as they seem.

Your best bet would be agency work or looking for a job with a big company.

 

[SimonJohns]

I was working

says it all

 

[tamz]

would like to know if what i have said it right
go out on the lash with plumbing boys etc. 1 pint will go a long way!

Try 10 Simon :smile:

 

[SimonJohns]

Try 10 Simon :smile:

lmao before they look at the work you just done for them:17:

 

[tamz]

I was working with a chap for a few weeks before i got NVQ and I was getting £100 a day for labouring, the other guys had a few years experience behind them but no formal qualifications and they were earning £200 a day.

Maybe in the boom times but those have long gone.

I often wonder where this idea of £200 a day comes from?

 

[tamz]

lmao before they look at the work you just done for them:17:

A good plumber can work in the dark without thinking :smile:

 

[jase158]

Just to clarify I am in Buckinghamshire, things are more expensive here for some reason (maybe because the PM lives here and quite a few famous people) prices are very similar to london prices.
Go 15 miles west and you pay 5p less on your fuel.

 

[jase158]

A good plumber can work in the dark without thinking :smile:

But even good plumbers need to read the instructions every now and again.

 

[SimonJohns]

But even good plumbers need to read the instructions every now and again.

plumbing doesnt have instructions,
excepet for
NO LEAKS

 

[tamz]

But even good plumbers need to read the instructions every now and again.

Most have read them years ago and found quicker better ways to do it.

 

[REDSAW]

congrat, to jase for this weeks hottest thread.lol

just a word here, my nephews working down in london at the moment with a mate of his doing ventilation. he is getting a £100 a day as he has never done it before only the last 2 weeks on this job.
he is a hairdresser!!!!!!!!, but it is his mate?.

 

[tamz]

Good money in the big stuff Red

 

[WaterTight]

The value of someone's work is extremely relative. If some guy trusts you, likes you, appreciates how you deal with customers, gets on with you at a personal level and thinks you work diligently and conscientously he may prefer you over somone far more experienced and skilled and pay accordingly (I've had the honour of such myself.) If he's busy and making good money - or happy to break even while he instead concentrates on building business in a certain area - he may pay over the odds too. But it's a lot of if's.

And so all we can really say is if we think it's a long-shot or not according to our experience of current times. Most people seem to think it's a big ask, some seem to disagree. Nothing wrong with going in high on a business deal. Problems is most business deals don't take place on a public forum surrounded by uninvolved third parties with personal interests and experience in the field. Was kind of asking for a lot noise.

 

[sparra1100]

theres no way on the planet i would pay anyone more that £300 a week regardless of who they are ,as ive had times were ive been lucky to get £700 a month even now am not getting much more than that, safe gas install has said he,ll help you so good luck to you but still think your livin in dreamland jase mate

 

[dontknowitall]

I'm not a full time, work any hours type of plumber but it is my full time job, if that makes sense.

This year started well but the summer was not good.

Just done a calculation and in this financial year I've earned the grand sum of £183.16 per ...

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week

(That makes it about £36 a day or £4.88 an hour).

How I'd love to be on £75 a day, let alone more than this. I'm not complaining though, it's just the way things are at present.

 

[WaterTight]

Yeah but £36 a day for how many hours work? I guess an average of 1-2. So pro-rata you're onto a cushy number - with plenty of time left to go fishing, write the all american novel or post on a plumbing forum.

 

[fuzzy]

I'm not a full time, work any hours type of plumber but it is my full time job, if that makes sense.

This year started well but the summer was not good.

Just done a calculation and in this financial year I've earned the grand sum of £183.16 per ...

week

(That makes it about £36 a day or £4.88 an hour).

How I'd love to be on £75 a day, let alone more than this. I'm not complaining though, it's just the way things are at present.

this is the info people dont always see

 

[dontknowitall]

Yeah but £36 a day for how many hours work? I guess an average of 1-2. So pro-rata you're onto a cushy number - with plenty of time left to go fishing, write the all american novel or post on a plumbing forum.

Fair point!

344.6 direct working hours
At least 400 hours for travel, chatting to customers, "could you just jobs", etc

And, in case you're wondering
Charge to customer per hour: £31.51

Out of this I receive £26.11 per hour gross (labour plus profit on stock sold) (£31.51 minus travel time costs)
Taken down to £16.66 per hour after some costs e.g. motor and travel, advertising, sundries, etc, etc
This will come down further due to remaining costs not yet taken into account. For example, depreciation, office use, insurance, clothing, etc as they're calculated at the end of the year.

This takes the £16.66 down to say to around £10.80 per hour.

£10.80 x 7.5 = £81 per day
= £405 per week = £19,440 (48 weeks)

£19.5k is the maximum because we all have days where we're ill, family commitment, customer not in or cancelling at the last minute, delivery late, etc, etc.

I've not typed this to prove a point - just I've never worked out these figures before despite taking time to record the necessary information!

 

[Barry98]

the grass is not greener

 

[davebigpipes]

Point your missing is that any one who is busy enough to employ some one full time like you want would already have employed some one for less money as their work built up. If you think its that easy to provide someone with enough work aswell as your self full time then why don't you go self employed and with the 200 per day you think you can get employ someone your self to do the admin that you don't want to do?

 

[GQuigley67]

thats my goal employing someone to do the admin and deal with moany customers lol

 

[jase158]

Can i just point out a lil fact that I have noticed,
Below is a similar threads section, which has 4 helping hand threads,
1 has 4 replies and the other 3 have 0 replies,
The fact of the matter is that if I had said I will work for free, then you would of thought, oh not another one!!!
If I had asked for £50 a day I would of got a few good luck messages.
But because I asked for £100 a day a realistic amount that I need to survive on, suddenly everyone is outraged, "this person is trying to actually be sensible and ask for a sensible amount, how outrageous"
How many people who offer their services for free actually keep the job for longer then a few weeks.
Anybody who is older then 17/18 has got bills, they have food to buy and rent to pay.
For anybody living at home with parents that are not paying bills then fair play, working for free or for £40 a week is fair play and if you want to take advantage of this then fair play to you.
But this is not physically possible for me, I need Around £80-£100 a day to pay my bills and feed my family.
If you do not have a job or wish to pay this then fair play, thank you for looking. However I still hold great belief that there are people out there who are willing to pay this much.
Only time will tell.

 

[jase158]

thats my goal employing someone to do the admin and deal with moany customers lol

Wonder if I could employ somebody to deal with moany forum plumbers?