Election poll...who will win vote now!

[rpm]

C`mon guys put your vote into the poll above, it doesn`t show who voted what and I really wanna see how we compare to the outcome, I reckon we are a fair reflection as a collection of employers, employees and self employed.

 

[voivod]

you can get whats left after we get the refund 😉

 

[voivod]

ukip are just the tory hardcore ...semi retired 😉 (ok senility setting in 😉 )

 

[Masood]

Nothing could persuade me to vote labour. They are economically illiterate, and any pretense that they have to represent or understand working people disappeared years ago. Neither Milliband nor Balls are fit to run a whelk stall. And I am sick of paying so much tax, and I believe that they would waste most of it. The problem with public services is not lack of money. Its how they are run.

The Greens are even more economically illiterate than Labour. Nicer people possibly, but still a couple of sandwiches short of a picnic.

I have been a UKIP member since 2011, mostly because I think we should leave the European Union. I had a row with Mastodon on this very board about it a year or so ago, when he claimed it was just a cover for racist cr@p. Whilst I still agree with much UKIP policy (out of EU, grammar schools, simpler tax system) I have to accept that Mas was right, and it contains too many racist nutters for me to feel comfortable there.

In this constituency, voting Lib-dem is pretty much a vote in favour of sleaze and treachery - or at least for people who covered up and connived at it. And nationally, they are a joke. Vince Cable? If he's a trained economist, I am the king of Siam.

Which leaves me with shiny Dave, the polished tu rd. The least rubbish of a set of poor options. Ye Gods.

Where have the :nono: Statesmen gone? When I was growing up, we had towering intellects in politics. You might not agree with them, but these were people of real brain power. I doesn't matter whether you preferred Enoch Powell or Tony Benn, they both had brains that could heat soup at 100 paces. The current lot are just lightweights - they wouldnt have run a TV gameshow in the past.

I'm sorry that you remember it as a row, Ray; I recollect a very civilised, good-tempered and mutually respectful debate. As a result of which I have paid more attention to Nigel's core ideas, looking past the buffoonery. I get the impression he never anticipated UKIP becoming as popular as they have, so they have not had the time to weed out the nutters, the simply embarrassing and the outright racist. If they could get rid of that faction and stop the automatic mantra of "blame immigration" they could be quite credible. Although I still think that on a certain level Farage is just pulling the biggest prank ever - blaming a traffic jam on the M4 on immigrants was genius...

I agree with you totally that the era is long gone when politicians were the best and brightest of our society, intellectual collosi driven by a genuine desire to improve society. The career politicians we have today are not worthy of the same name as Powell, Benn, or latterly John Smith - possibly the last honourable true Labour politician we've had. The recent litter of moral runts and opportunist lightweights are all so self-interested that it makes very little difference whether Labour or Conservative win - we're all screwed for a good long while yet whilst the politicians spew soundbites about bringing popstars' tax avoidance schemes to an end whilst allowing their cronies and colleagues to do exactly the same without censure...

 

[voivod]

I dont get why anyone would vote conservative????
They are going to sell of the NHS next ....get rid of any benifits left to people .
I just dont get it . Can someone explain why???
New labour were a joke...but will get better now that they seem to be losing the Tory wets mantra .

as for Ukip......they blame immigrants . But they are the ones who pay them ???
They use immigrants as an excuse to keep wages down ...so that they make more profits.
Definetly dont get them either???

 

[Gray0689]

And I don't get why anyone would vote SNP
Owe yes I do now where all different so everyone to there own views
What a wonderful idea

 

[hammers4spanner]

Richard Littlejohn's Jimmy Savile comments provoke outrage from abuse victims' charity - People - News - The Independent

Made me chuckle

 

[Ray Stafford]

They are going to sell of the NHS next

This is one that I really don't understand.

All my life I have heard this claim at every election - "The ruthless Tories want to sell off the NHS".

Since the NHS was formed back in the 40s, the Tories have had 34 years in sole power and 5 years in government as senior partners in coalition.

If they are so determined to sell off the NHS, how come they haven't done so by now?

Of the relatively small amount of outsourcing of NHS services that has occurred, most of it has happened under the Labour governments of Tony Blair and Gordon Brown.

 

[voivod]

They haven't been able to as have been scared of the outcry,....now they ARE doing it via the back door 🙁

 

[Gray0689]

They haven't been able to as have been scared of the outcry,....now they ARE doing it via the back door 🙁

Lol I guess you was a yes man and are bitter you was defeated
I don't vote but I might start again I'm a big Maggie fan so it would have to be her party
Just wish there was someone as strong as her to lead again

 

[voivod]

Am a yes man...but no i ain't bitter.
that's democracy for you . I do think if the vow/liie hadn't happened then vote would be different.
I just believe in a fairer society....aand it won't happen with the con of austerity going on.

 

[Gray0689]

Well the vote was decided so that's done
I think the conservatives have actually done a pretty good job with what they was left with
Labour was an utter joke IMHO

 

[hammers4spanner]

I go with that
the last labour govt were a farce

 

[hammers4spanner]

As for this current govt I actually haven't done that bad under them .

 

[voivod]

I suppose that's the problem when you only hae two parties and BOTH are one n the same ....
glad we don't up here 😉

 

[Gray0689]

I suppose that's the problem when you only hae two parties and BOTH are one n the same ....
glad we don't up here 😉

But the majority of Scotland must like the British government to vote against breaking away

We have had a worldwide recession and to be honest I think they have done not a bad job dealing with it

The figures you show about the 3 odd million disabled people getting there benefits cut
I think more of them should be cut

I strongly believe the people that do deserve it should get more and the scum that lie cheat and steal from the deserving should get nothing there low life scum that just drain our resources

I read about a 56 stone girl that had to be taken to hospital costing 100k with Fire service cranes ect for the second time she will be on disability living allowance housing benefit the lot so she can be a fat lazy **** stuffing her face

A double tap to the head is more what she needs

 

[voivod]

Yup.....but did u read about ALL the deserving ones who have died..YES DIED because of getting no money food etc.
that's what I despise :cuss:

 

[voivod]

And we were lied too 😉
Pensioners are still getting mail full of lies today...grr.

 

[Gray0689]

All governments lie always have and always will that's politics

I'm sure there is legitimate ones that have died and its criminal

Take off the
alcoholics
Druggies
Fat lazy ones

 

[voivod]

They use those as an excuse to hide the ones they don't tell you about.
Government must realise they are there for OUR benefit. ..NOT for them to get richer and have more power.
that's what westminster has forgotten.

 

[Gray0689]

The last time I was in Glasgow it was a joke the amount of drunks and druggies
These are the drain on society
Everywhere

 

[drip-dry]

The last time I was in Glasgow it was a joke the amount of drunks and druggies
These are the drain on society
Everywhere

yeh..lots of plumbers in Glasgooooow....:ack2:

 

[voivod]

saw more drunks in england to be honest. But thats a deflection from the REAL problems


How can anyone say we are better of under these clowns?????:ack2:

 

[Gray0689]

Lol if there was a poster for the old labour it would be same
I don't really like any politician there all the same
But I will give credit where it's due and I honestly don't think they have done a bad job with what they had to work with

You have your beliefs
I was born in Glasgow so I've visited it a bit
And I said there is alcoholics and druggies everywhere

 

[Gray0689]

How can anyone say we are better of under these clowns?????:ack2:


I can well get rid of the idiot on the right first