just the way you wrote that there 😛 yeah but its the total 4 year they do now, not the 3 year they used to do
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fuzzy
its always been 4 years, who does 3 and how does that work?
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Guest123
It would be kinda weird introducing a 35 year old as your boy.
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fuzzy
why can they not be trained on the job and work as a plumbers mate, no responsibity and about 85% of a plumbers wage
adult apprentices done 3 year instead of 4, was unfair as i had a guy 5 years older than me in my year but because he was an adult done 3 years, was unfair so i think that's why they changed it....or maybe this was just a scottish thing ?
they just done the 3 years of college and then they were time served
they just done the 3 years of college and then they were time served
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Guest123
If it's the fast trackers you mean, then this is a good idea and would be even better if part government funded. Otherwise they'd need to have a bit of experience before being paid 85% of the rate.
Apprenticeship-City and Guilds Advanced Craft took me 4 years and it takes about same again to become good at what you do. Every day's a school day as far as I'm concerned and ALL plumbers learn new things every day. It's a mockery to do it in 2 weeks and then claim to be a plumber.
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tamz
The adult aprenticeship scheme in Scotland was closed in 2008. There may be some still on it but as Gerry said they did 3 years so the last of them will be done this year.
Bathgate no more, Linwood no more, Lochaber.............no ...mo....arrrrrrrrr😀😀😀
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fuzzy
didnt know it was that different in scotland, they sill run in the mighty england
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Guest123
Then we'll ship them all down to you lot then. LOL
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fuzzy
ahould they not start at the botttom? you want to start on the same conditions and money as somebody who has qualified and worked their way up?????
Try a different career?
go to canada you dont start your apprentiship til your 21, Ive got family over there plumbers all their life got big houses swimming pools and bars in their basement 🙂 thats the life but sadly for me they cant understand what I'm saying 😛
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What do they do until they're 21 then?
dunno school probably
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come on lets break 5k
what ?
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fuzzy
people may not ruin the chance as often at 21 than 16
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A little update for y'all. You may be pleased to know that HSE is 'reviewing' fast track gas courses & defining a set path with a view to possibly abolishing the route that was sold to me along with redesigning the ACS ie; 1 day per year instead of 1 week per 5 years. As I stated earlier that there was no defined path into the industry & it is possible to jump ahead. This may soon change as Fuzzy said NVQ2 then NVQ3. Got it from the horses' mouth yesterday! (local Gas Safe Inspector). Oh & did you know that Wat1 is being scrapped & will be included with CEN1 from April?(still have to be assessed on it)
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Good news, the sooner the better.
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fuzzy
sounds good
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fagsanbooz
sounds like someone has seen sense at last! Suggest if anyone hears any updates on this, we share it around and perhaps all pitch in to support it in someway. If enough of the 'trade' shouts loud enough, maybe, just maybe we might get some civil servant to listen!
good news if it happens,i'm sure the powers that be understand the situation and with the scrapping of tec cert as we no it,can only be good for industry,now all we need now is a big fat incentive to employ an apprentice(if self employed).
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