Good or bad idea - would you like it and be Interested in?

[Riley]

I'm not but don't get me wrong though wouldn't it be better to props sometimes some other engineers? It doesn't come across really good either just point out. If I wanted I could also find stuff which should be changed or amended. However, I'm very happy with the works. I would also change a few things but sometimes the quote doesn't allow for doing better works as I am not going to pay from my own pocket.

But you’ve done the whole install in press fit mate?? That’s about 10 times the price compared to an end feed fitting?

 

[Old Account]

But you’ve done the whole install in press fit mate?? That’s about 10 times the price compared to an end feed fitting?

That's correct beneath the boiler it's done in crimping fittings. It's more expensive but a lot safer, faster and last a lot longer. Don't get your question though?

 

[Sharp Point]

That's correct beneath the boiler it's done in crimping fittings. It's more expensive but a lot safer, faster and last a lot longer. Don't get your question though?

Why is it safer Ron? Man has been soldering pipes underneath boilers since lpg has been around. Faster!! ..... probably not by long, compared with soldering. I’d like to see one of your installs, where you ain’t got a blank canvas and you’re swapping out a boiler connecting onto pipework in a tight area, I’d absolutely floor you with speed and neatness..... lovely pulled bends

 

[Sharp Point]

Last a lot longer.......eh??? Soldered pipework will out live neoprene o rings hand on foot!

 

[Sharp Point]

You give those fittings a knock in 15 years time and they’d probably leak

 

[Riley]

That's correct beneath the boiler it's done in crimping fittings. It's more expensive but a lot safer, faster and last a lot longer. Don't get your question though?

You said you couldn’t stretch the budget yet you’ve used the most expensive fittings

 

[Riley]

I’m not criticising I like using pressfit as well but when you are having to save on other parts of the install because you’re using expensive fittings it just doesn’t make sense

 

[Old Account]

Last a lot longer.....eh??? Soldered pipework will out live neoprene o rings hand on foot!

The seal is just a double protection. The older fittings used be sound without being crimped but due to some incidents over the years they changed the fittings and did the sc contur which helps to see if you crimped a fitting or not ( obviously ones pressurised ). It will literally spuirt all over the place.

 

[Old Account]

You said you couldn’t stretch the budget yet you’ve used the most expensive fittings

That's the way I plumb. I chose Latest technology which customers like. No one has ever said that plumbing is cheap. I don't do cheap but quality.

 

[Old Account]

I’m not criticising I like using pressfit as well but when you are having to save on other parts of the install because you’re using expensive fittings it just doesn’t make sense

I get your point but I talk to the customer before I quote and obviously find out there budget to start with. How often you go quoting and it turns out people haven't got enough budget its literally a waste of your time and petrol. I'd rather know beforehand where I am at with the customer. I don't currently corners neither do I RIP anyone off but make sure the customer gets what he agrees and pays for.

 

[Old Account]

Why is it safer Ron? Man has been soldering pipes underneath boilers since lpg has been around. Faster!! ... probably not by long, compared with soldering. I’d like to see one of your installs, where you ain’t got a blank canvas and you’re swapping out a boiler connecting onto pipework in a tight area, I’d absolutely floor you with speed and neatness... lovely pulled bends

You and your contest show me some of your installs darling I'd be really curious

 

[Sharp Point]

That's the way I plumb. I chose Latest technology which customers like. No one has ever said that plumbing is cheap. I don't do cheap but quality.

Steady on old boy, that could stir up a hornets nest. I’ll rephrase that for you ‘ I don’t do cheap( I use press fittings) and a I strive to do a quality job.... ‘ as do most folk who use a blow torch too’

There....all re-phrased

 

[Riley]

My point is Ron if they don’t have the budget why are you not offering to solder it for them then you could meet insulation requirements and still be quids in I’m missing the point I don’t believe any customer is going to choose more expensive fittings over saving money by insulating

 

[Sharp Point]

You and your contest show me some of your installs darling I'd be really curious

I don’t really take pictures anymore, especially of boilers. I’ve put 1000’s in over the years ( spent years contracting) the novelty wore off, many many moons ago.

 

[Riley]

That's the way I plumb. I chose Latest technology which customers like. No one has ever said that plumbing is cheap. I don't do cheap but quality.

And you really do need to read your messages before you post as you are implying that you do a better job than everybody else just because you use pressfit

 

[Old Account]

Steady on old boy, that could stir up a hornets nest. I’ll rephrase that for you ‘ I don’t do cheap( I use press fittings) and a I strive to do a quality job.. ‘ as do most folk who use a blow torch too’

There....all re-phrased

I'm not saying you doing a crap job and doing using cheap materials... but if you feel

Steady on old boy, that could stir up a hornets nest. I’ll rephrase that for you ‘ I don’t do cheap( I use press fittings) and a I strive to do a quality job.. ‘ as do most folk who use a blow torch too’

There....all re-phrased

I am not saying you don't do quality jobs or use cheap materials but if you feel spoke to ... perhaps you should not try to see the bad things but taking things a little easier. We are talking about some fittings and so on ... you k ow for certain what I mean and did not mean anything different so stop trying to twist things

 

[Old Account]

My point is Ron if they don’t have the budget why are you not offering to solder it for them then you could meet insulation requirements and still be quids in I’m missing the point I don’t believe any customer is going to choose more expensive fittings over saving money by insulating

I get your point riley

 

[ShaunCorbs]

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[Old Account]

And you really do need to read your messages before you post as you are implying that you do a better job than everybody else just because you use pressfit

That's only the people who feel spoken to. I am not implying anything but said that I am offering quality work. There is no need to misunderstand me again as you all know that's not what I meant

 

[Sharp Point]

I'm not saying you doing a crap job and doing using cheap materials... but if you feel

I am not saying you don't do quality jobs or use cheap materials but if you feel spoke to . perhaps you should not try to see the bad things but taking things a little easier. We are talking about some fittings and so on . you k ow for certain what I mean and did not mean anything different so stop trying to twist things

I’m not twisting things, I’m trying to make light of the way you say things, because the way you write can be taken the completely wrong way Ron.
Making statements of pressfit is safer, last longer etc etc is bold. I think sometimes you forget that you’re on a plumbing heating and gas forum, surrounded by chaps who’ve probably been doing this 45+ years. I think we know what’s good and isn’t ..... if you get me.

When you post, be prepared to be questioned and analysed

 

[Riley]

Saying you do quality not cheap implying that anyone that anyone using end feed is cheap. It’s not a case of misreading or misinterpreting it’s in black and white. The real comparison was you do more expensive whilst others do cheaper the opposite of quality is poor quality

 

[Sharp Point]

Saying you do quality not cheap implying that anyone that anyone using end feed is cheap. It’s not a case of misreading or misinterpreting it’s in black and white. The real comparison was you do more expensive whilst others do cheaper the opposite of quality is poor quality

Can we put it down to his lack of English language and inability to express what he actually means. We don’t want another ‘vaillaht servicing’ debacle.....

 

[Harvest Fields]

You’re all missing the point and gone off track a little. @ShaunCorbs was simply pointing out that you @Matchless.plumb from the picture you posted have used a Mapress water fitting on a gas pipe and then rather than say sound, I’ll look into that and get back to you. Decide to dig your heels in as usual and baffle everyone with stuff that has nothing to do with the relevant point. It was a point to stop you from getting into trouble at a later date not a Critisism. It was an advisory to say you may want to go back and change it for a gas one.

 

[Harvest Fields]

Can we put it down to his lack of English language and inability to express what he actually means. We don’t want another ‘vaillaht servicing’ debacle...

To late.

 

[Sharp Point]

To late.

I know...

I feel some wee Germans dummies being thrown shortly.