Hints, tips & secrets of plumbing - No Banter please!

[dontknowitall]

re: Hints, tips & secrets of plumbing - No Banter please!

I add 80mm. Doh!!!

Not saying this is the best method of hanging radiators but it's quick and works for me:

1. Small pencil mark for centre of radiator about 15" up from floor.
2. Measure for right bracket distance (check back of radiator!) from this first pencil mark.
3. Small pencil mark 10½" up from floor to bottom of bracket (obviously check skirting boards and other obstructions to ensure this will look okay!)
4. Small spirit level set vertically against bracket and hold bracket tight to wall.
5. Mark two drill holes.
6. Start with 6mm drill hole and if bit slips around use small bit for other holes. Then use larger bit(s) as necessary.
7. Screw in bracket.
8. Measure distance between fixing centres on back of radiator.
9. With this distance for left bracket make a small pencil mark.
10. Hold bracket against wall with small spirit level.
11. Balance long spirit level over both brackets.
12. When happy with vertical and horizontal levels, mark screw holes.
13. Screw in bracket and about 19 times out of 20 radiator will be bang on level and centred correctly.

Usually takes me an hour or so for first radiator then 1/2 hour per radiator after that.

 

[Billy Bob Bob]

re: Hints, tips & secrets of plumbing - No Banter please!

I add 80mm. Doh!!!

Not saying this is the best method of hanging radiators but it's quick and works for me:

1. Small pencil mark for centre of radiator about 15" up from floor.
2. Measure for right bracket distance (check back of radiator!) from this first pencil mark.
3. Small pencil mark 10½" up from floor to bottom of bracket (obviously check skirting boards and other obstructions to ensure this will look okay!)
4. Small spirit level set vertically against bracket and hold bracket tight to wall.
5. Mark two drill holes.
6. Start with 6mm drill hole and if bit slips around use small bit for other holes. Then use larger bit(s) as necessary.
7. Screw in bracket.
8. Measure distance between fixing centres on back of radiator.
9. With this distance for left bracket make a small pencil mark.
10. Hold bracket against wall with small spirit level.
11. Balance long spirit level over both brackets.
12. When happy with vertical and horizontal levels, mark screw holes.
13. Screw in bracket and about 19 times out of 20 radiator will be bang on level and centred correctly.

Usually takes me an hour or so for first radiator then 1/2 hour per radiator after that.

this is how i do it but if its under a window measure down from the sill

 

[GQuigley67]

re: Hints, tips & secrets of plumbing - No Banter please!

when i worked on commercial we used to have small cuttings of steel which we screwed in dry to the valves which we just lined it up and marked the floor and it was as easy as that things are so much easier though on sites. This was on mild steel systems incase anyone is wondering.

 

[tamz]

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You'd be there all day DKIA

Here is how to do it quick.

Stand rad in position against wall
Mark centre of brackets from behind the rad and sit it to the side
Mark 3" above skirting (with a stelrad you don't need a tape, use a bracket and run it along top of skirting with your pencil on the bottom of the bottom slot)
Hold bracket to height marks and square edge with centres marks
Mark 1 bracket in holes and the other in the slots.
Drill 6 or 7mm hole (whatever you use) to marks
Screw bracket to holes first with 2 or 2½" x 10's then the one to slots.
Level brackets and fully tighten slots bracket.
Fire another screw through the top hole of the slot bracket with a 6mm drill bit if it makes you feel better but it won't need it if you tighten them enough.
100% 1st time level 3- 4 mins a rad

 

[Kimou]

re: Hints, tips & secrets of plumbing - No Banter please!

Cut a length of solder and coil it round your torch nozzle so you always have some left if you run out.

 

[Kimou]

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When soldering vertical pipework want to stop the pipe from slipping out the fitting; ever so slightly pinch the end of the pipe and it will fit snug and you can solder trouble free.

 

[Kimou]

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If the termination to your PR pipe is difficult to access, say up high and you have a window nearby but too far to reach out . Make up the pipe with elbows returning on itself so discharge will direct to wall as intended then put some flux on the edge of the pipe near the elbows and sweat a 3 metre tube to it with a little contact of solder. Now you can fish it through the hole and snap off the 3 mtr tube. Just remember not to go overboard when sweating.

 

[tamz]

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Different method for an out of reach blow off. Cut a bit 15mm at a 45º angle, hang a 22mm stop end from it and solder it on. Drill a 25mm hole and push it through.

 

[Dannypipe]

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Screw fix also sell a blow off termination that works in almost the exact same way as described above, however it will fit through a small hole as it is purpose made for the job.

I'll try and find the link.

 

[anz]

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Do you mean something like this.

 

[Kimou]

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Largest copper fitting-
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[Pipes Plumbing]

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Don't mean to pick holes but I think this would be unsuitable as it would not give a full bore of the pipe at the termination

Opinions?

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I'd say that it should still be ok, given that the pipe should be cut at 45 degrees, giving it the same / slightly greater csa to discharge from.
The 22mm stopend soldered on (even with the 15mm pipe inside it) will allow for for a greater area to discharge from than the 15mm pipe at full bore.

15mm copper tube csa = 176.74mm2
22mm copper tube csa = 380.12mm2
Area for discharge from stop end = 203.44mm2 (slightly larger area than full bore 15mm)

Hopefully an inspector would see it the same way and not make me faff about up a ladder to change it
Just my take on it, I may be wrong (infact, I usually am if I ask the other half!)

 

[mylesy]

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if anyone buys the magnacleanse filters, when setting it up from fresh out the box. buy additional jubilee clips for the hoses. the ones that come with dont quite do it. still use them but add some extras

 

[REDSAW]

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thank you.

 

[SafeGasInstall]

re: Hints, tips & secrets of plumbing - No Banter please!

always have a spear pair of socks/t-shirt in the van !

 

[Kimou]

re: Hints, tips & secrets of plumbing - No Banter please!

Download a bright torch light for your phone from an Apps download site. Invaluable.
I downloaded the old counter top bell also. great in the merchants, or getting the mrs to make tea...she doesn't approve too much though

 

[SafeGasInstall]

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I'll get told of for this but ...... can not keep quaiet !This forum is not for your to sell and promote services ! This forum isFor single trades man and not only who help each other ! And solo trades men is just as good as large company's If not better then them ! As we are learning every day and trying Our best to perform best job for reasonable prices , unlike big company's !Stan

this is to Peeter from handyman franchise

 

[GQuigley67]

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anyone any tips for filing chrome for soldered joints ?? takes to long using the old jeremy kyle

 

[PlumbBobBob]

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i use a file but possibly something like a dremel would be much faster

 

[dontknowitall]

re: Hints, tips & secrets of plumbing - No Banter please!

Or give yourself a small break/rest and spend quarter of an hour sitting down with a stanley knife and wire wool.

 

[Kimou]

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Dip into dilute sulphuric acid and use lead as the cathode. Connect lead to positive. Well you did ask.

 

[Kimou]

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What you could try though I haven't. Use your drill and 1 1/2" core bit with pilot. pack in a load of coarse wire wool stick the end of your pipe in and whizz away

 

[oaky]

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If you cut a pipe that you want to solder and it has water still trapped in it and you cant get it out i.e by opening tap and draining, nice little tip that works get a plant spray or the spray out of a window cleaner bottle and dip the end into the cut end and squirt in to a bowl/bucket and this will clear the pipe enough to solder the joint! Try it, it really works.

 

[WaterTight]

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If you keep speedfit stopends in your pocket in case of an emergency, every now and then try them on a bit of pipe. If you leave them in your pocket for more than a few weeks the bits of fluff and dirt will stop then connecting to the pipe properly. They can be cleaned of course, but defeats the object of an emergecny measure. I had two in pocket for about a month and couldn't be bothered to get some from my speedfit box so decided to use my emergency ones. Neither would go on the pipe.

 

[Puddle]

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If you cut a pipe that you want to solder and it has water still trapped in it and you cant get it out i.e by opening tap and draining, nice little tip that works get a plant spray or the spray out of a window cleaner bottle and dip the end into the cut end and squirt in to a bowl/bucket and this will clear the pipe enough to solder the joint! Try it, it really works.

good tip but I have always used the small tube from my u gauge to shove down pipe and syphon water out

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