Suggest gas combi boiler

[gasmanrob]

Ermintrude?

 

[ShaunCorbs]

This is not an argument, but discussion - whole idea of such forum. Facts are facts, I have compared boiler specs.

And why installers fit Worcester? Because parts are widely available, better profit margins compared to other makes, better tech support maybe. But again - it doesn`t actually mean its best boiler out there. I can understand its not easy to accept this fact, because you might be fitting 10 Worcesters a week.

i can get parts for any boiler within a couple of days so that doesnt come into context to that, viessmann commercial i have found have the best tech support so far, and not greater profit margins as there getting other quotes from people installer other boilers eg ferroli, Vokera, and Aristons just to name a few

 

[gasmanrob]

This is not an argument, but discussion - whole idea of such forum. Facts are facts, I have compared boiler specs.

And why installers fit Worcester? Because parts are widely available, better profit margins compared to other makes, better tech support maybe. But again - it doesn`t actually mean its best boiler out there. I can understand its not easy to accept this fact, because you might be fitting 10 Worcesters a week.

Just going to bat this away sharply Worcester have an awful profit margin for the installer.

I haven't read the whole thread nor do I intend to but personally Worcester are far from the best boiler out there.

 

[Depo]

there not nosier,alu conducts heat better and doesnt matter if alu or ss both do the same and work in the same principle, and i bet if you ran each make of main man boiler you wont find much difference in elec cost

But within few years you will have to replace it.

How 45 against 38 dB is not noisier? You might think some 25w is not a big deal. But how much in terms of money is that let`s say over 5 year period? A lot.

HE +extra consumption = not the best deal. If Worcester would cost something like 20% less compared to others - yes it would make sense, but it doesn`t.

 

[IDCHAPPY]

Worcester and profit in the same sentence is non compatible. Have you checked the price of them?

 

[ShaunCorbs]

But within few years you will have to replace it.

How 45 against 38 dB is not noisier? You might think some 25w is not a big deal. But how much in terms of money is that let`s say over 5 year period? A lot.

HE +extra consumption = not the best deal. If Worcester would cost something like 20% less compared to others - yes it would make sense, but it doesn`t.

how do you know them figures are right/ same conditions unless there in the same room test is invalid

 

[Depo]

Yes I have checked everything - specs and prices. They all cost pretty much the same, but specs do vary.

 

[Depo]

how do you know them figures are right/ same conditions unless there in the same room test is invalid

Building Energy Performance Assessment - Support Website : Search

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Yes I have checked everything - specs and prices. They all cost pretty much the same, but specs do vary.

have a look at ideal logic then and you will see what i mean

 

[Depo]

have a look at ideal logic then and you will see what i mean

In terms of what? Spec, price?

 

[ShaunCorbs]

In terms of what? Spec, price?

all

 

[Dotty]

Hamworthy Modumax. That's my boiler of the moment.

Good luck!

I'll be watching this thread with interest.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Building Energy Performance Assessment - Support Website : Search

wheres the db readings for the 28 compact erp

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Hamworthy Modumax. That's my boiler of the moment.

Good luck!

I'll be watching this thread with interest.

big house? and have you check ip addy its not a modd winding us up??????

 

[IDCHAPPY]

Fit a 32kw Vogue FFS

 

[wattsie1987]

In terms of what? Spec, price?

No.



I`ve read quite opposite. Because UFH requires much lower water temp, boiler works in condensing mode, which is very efficient.

You've missed the point there UFH works on consistent constant heat not cutting out every time a hot tap is touched.

 

[wattsie1987]

In terms of what? Spec, price?

Vaillant tech rep told me this over the phone - Pro is cheaper because it uses more plastic parts rather than brass/copper.

Nothing to do with the size of heat exchanger built in filling loop, user interface or the aesthetics then? I've only been fitting 3 a week for the last 5 years so what would I know !

 

[Depo]

have a look at ideal logic then and you will see what i mean

Ideal VOGUE COMBI(their top of the range)

Up to 1:7 modulation(but Baxi Platinum Combi has a massive 1:10 modulation ratio)
Stainless steel HE
89.1%
10.6L/min@35

So far decent spec. But I cannot see dB level +power consumption when idle/burning at max on their spec sheet. Therefore cannot be compared to other boilers.

 

[Depo]

Hamworthy Modumax. That's my boiler of the moment.

Good luck!

I'll be watching this thread with interest.

That is not domestic, unless you need that 100kw boiler for your zillion bedroom mansion.

 

[Depo]

wheres the db readings for the 28 compact erp

I could not find either, so emailed Worcester. Their reply:

....our models are rated at 50-55 dB

 

[Depo]

and have you check ip addy its not a modd winding us up??????

I`m not mod and not winding anybody up - why would I? I`m just an ordinary guy who wants to buy best boiler available. I don`t buy installers/sellers sales talks, I always carry out my own research. I`m not plumber or heating engineer. I simply spent few days researching boilers, specs, technologies and spoke to few boiler manufacturers. Now I got some understanding what is what.

 

[dsmart]

Your having a laugh mate first person I've heard worrying about fecking db level of their new boiler. what planet are you on because it aint the same one as most on here anyway:conehead:

 

[Depo]

Baxi Platinum 24 HE A

Seasonal efficiency % 91.1 - very impressive
Power consumption 155w - oh my Jesus Lord, are they serious?
9.8L/min@35 degrees - rubbish

No dB shown again. I assume at 155w it won`t be anything below 50dB.

Platinum isn`t really a platinum I guess.

 

[wattsie1987]

In terms of what? Spec, price?

Your having a laugh mate first person I've heard worrying about fecking db level of their new boiler. what planet are you on because it aint the same one as most on here anyway:conehead:

Haha !

 

[Depo]

Your having a laugh mate first person I've heard worrying about fecking db level of their new boiler.

I do care about my comfort. Why would I listen to the boiler noise if I can avoid that?

Vaillant ecoPro & Plus do not specify dB levels on their website, just "Quiet mark" approved. QM website also has no info on this boiler. But when I phoned Vaillant, turns out they produce 45 dB. Trying to make impression they are something super quiet, when they are far from that. Viessmann are below 40dB for example.