T4TS Course..If your on it get in touch

[beanie88]

Hi i need help for the senario 1 . complete cold water system

The idea is that you complete the scenario by trial and error; lets think about this in the loft we have 4 items
1. Expansion tank float valve
2. Float valve isolation valve
3. C.W.S.T float valve
4. C.W.S.T float isolation valve
COMPLETE
Next Family Bathroom 6 items
1. Bath cold tap
2. Bath cold tap isolation valve
3. Basin cold tap
4. Basin tap isolation valve
5. Toilet cistern float valve
6. Toilet float isolation valve
COMPLETE
Cloak Room 4 items
1. Basin cold tap
2. Basin cold tap isolation valve
3. Toilet cistern float valve
4. Toilet float isolation valve
COMPLETE
Kitchen
1. Sink cold tap 5items
2. Sink cold tap isolation valve
3. Washing machine cold valve (blue)
4. Main stopcock
5. Drain cock

COMPLETE
So all you have to do is click on an item above and click inspect that's it
Well I trust this helps you complete the scenario, if it does you will get a congratulations message, at this screen you will see a completion code, note this code and enter it on this site to receive the code for the next scenario
Good Luck

 

[chrispg]

hi im on the course on the cenario for soundness testing at mo cant seem to find where the pressure test is and where it goes any ideas?
or am i just being stupid and not looking properly(thought i looked every where lol)

cheers chris

 

[beanie88]

hi im on the course on the cenario for soundness testing at mo cant seem to find where the pressure test is and where it goes any ideas?
or am i just being stupid and not looking properly(thought i looked every where lol)

cheers chris

First you should have completed setting and checking temperatures of all hot water taps.
Now for the hot water system check, so we need too now click on and click inspect 18 separate items, you have been told 2 in loft, have a think it. What 2 items are part of your domestic Hot water system?
ANSWER
The float valve and isolation valve for the cold-water storage cistern, (this feeds the hot water cylinder)
FAMILY BATHROOM
So we have 4, 2 x hot taps and 2 x hot tap isolation valves.
AIRING CUPBOARD
We have 5 items in this compartment, remember we are doing the domestic hot system not the boiler/heating system so gate valve, immersion heater, 3 port valve, cylinder stat and cylinder drain cock.
CLOAKROOM
We only have 2 in this room 1 x hot tap, 1 x hot tap isolation valve,
KITCHEN
Here we have the last 5, instant water heater and it's isolation valve, hot tap and it's isolation valve and the last item washing machine valve.
So now the task is complete.
END SCENARIO

i emailed the tutor's and this is what i got.
stu

 

[chrispg]

thats the cenario before done that ta!!!

 

[beanie88]

have you tried the washing machine?? do a cold water system check too. thats how i found this one out.

 

[Kams82]

Hi Whitenoise, I started my plumbing course 11 Months ago just completed assignment for module 9, I was struggling a little with making notes, I know that the best thing to do is make keypoint notes in the learning log, only thing is that the difficulty I am having is working out what will be important information for the exam. Since you must have complete the course by now please let me know what I can expect at the training and assessment centre also when you were revising for your exams, did you get any revision note handouts from the training and assessment centre. I hope I hear from you soon.

Kams.

 

[Jamie Banks]

Just finished 32 modules/ water regs/ Part L and 6 weeks of practicals - so all finished - just waiting for portfolio to be IV'd and has to go back to where i did my weeks so bit of a pain.

Views - practicals done with ATL good

Books ok but had to buy extra to make the exams easier, recommend the Learn a trade cd

T4TS not bad but didnt really do much once they had my signiture

If more questions need to be answered then pm me and will try to answer them


So whats next

 

[Kams82]

Just finished 32 modules/ water regs/ Part L and 6 weeks of practicals - so all finished - just waiting for portfolio to be IV'd and has to go back to where i did my weeks so bit of a pain.

Views - practicals done with ATL good

Books ok but had to buy extra to make the exams easier, recommend the Learn a trade cd

T4TS not bad but didnt really do much once they had my signiture

If more questions need to be answered then pm me and will try to answer them


So whats next

Hi Jamie

I am nearing completion of part 1 but am finding it a little difficult because although the T4TS books are good and have lots of activities and progress checks to measure knowledge they dont point out out whats going to appear in the exam and what we need to know so when making notes its difficult to make them key pointers to revise when go back through the modules to revise I have been reading and working through activities and progress checks but I know that more needs to be done if I want to get through part 1 of the course please let me know what you did when you were preparing for part 1's exam.

 

[Jamie Banks]

Kams82

When you say part 1 what exactly do you mean - is it partical session 1 or module 1 - I personnally found the Learn a trade cd particulary good but it is £15, also had the smart screen online assessment which you can get the details from a tutor at ATL on and also used the Heimen Revision book from amazon for £14 as this is small amounts of detail on each exam but tells you exactly what you need to know. If you need any further links or advice contact me and I will send them to you - Good Luck.

Jamie

 

[Kams82]

Hi jamie

Sorry about missing that bit of detail, I have almost finished part 1 in relation to the modules I have just recently submitted my assignment for module 9, and am waiting for the code to get on to module 10. As I was saying in my previous post the T4TS books although good dont point out in a clear manner what exactly needs to be known for the exams. Also if the Heinemann Revision Guide has what I am look for I will get it with hopes that It will help me to make good notes for the exam. Please let me know where I can get ahold of the Learn a trade CD, I suppose smart screen assessment will only be given to me when I get to ATL's training centre. I have already asked a tutor at T4TS for what is covered in the exam hopefully what they provided will assist me in preparing for the exam.

Kams.

 

[mozza]

Hi,
I am 39 years of age and have recently been made redundant.
I now see this as an opportunity to embark on a new career in plumbing and heating. I have previously worked in the plumbing industry and have knowledge and experience in the duties of running pipework, boiler installations, full central heating installations, servicing of boilers, fault finding and repairs and general jobbing duties. I also have experience running screwed and barrelled pipework on an industrial level.
I am starting the city and guilds 6129 basic plumbing level 2 course at Midkent college in September and i intend to run the NVQ 6089 alongside this providing i can find employment within the industry.
I am honest, hardworking, trustworthy and reliable, and willing to learn. I have my own tools and a clean driving license and my own vehicle.
I am looking to learn and gain knowledge from an experienced plumber/heating engineer.
If you or anyone you know could utilise me and my skills i would be extremely grateful of the opportunity to learn and train with you.
I live in the Sevenoaks area of Kent, and am able to travel into London.
Also any tips, addresses, contacts or advice would be greatly received.
Thanks Chris Morris.
[email protected]

 

[beanie88]

Hi,
I am 39 years of age and have recently been made redundant.
I now see this as an opportunity to embark on a new career in plumbing and heating. I have previously worked in the plumbing industry and have knowledge and experience in the duties of running pipework, boiler installations, full central heating installations, servicing of boilers, fault finding and repairs and general jobbing duties. I also have experience running screwed and barrelled pipework on an industrial level.
I am starting the city and guilds 6129 basic plumbing level 2 course at Midkent college in September and i intend to run the NVQ 6089 alongside this providing i can find employment within the industry.
I am honest, hardworking, trustworthy and reliable, and willing to learn. I have my own tools and a clean driving license and my own vehicle.
I am looking to learn and gain knowledge from an experienced plumber/heating engineer.
If you or anyone you know could utilise me and my skills i would be extremely grateful of the opportunity to learn and train with you.
I live in the Sevenoaks area of Kent, and am able to travel into London.
Also any tips, addresses, contacts or advice would be greatly received.
Thanks Chris Morris.
[email protected]

hey,
i got some experience by going though the yellow pages and phoning around. might work for you.

stu

 

[Jamie Banks]

Kams try this thought it had gone through yesterday but obviously not:

Learnatrade.co.uk

You pay for the cd by paypal etc has 12 modules and approx 2200 questions - got me through everything

 

[Kams82]

Hi Jamie

Thanks for the link, Do I need to go for the 1st one on the list?

Kams.

 

[Jamie Banks]

This one Kams but it needs to be verified on web each time you use it, so if you take it to revise and are staying in travelodge etc you will need wifi

The 'All New' Plumbing Level 2 Revision

In response to the extra questions added by City & Guilds last year, there are now over 1500 questions covering 12​

 

[Kams82]

Thanks Jamie Will get it A SAP and hope I pass my exams. When you went for your training did you need to pay for the training and accommodation? I have been told by T4TS that it is all paid for through the fees I am paying back.

 

[Padam442]

Have you completed your NVQ/level 2 plumbing course. If yes, how did you find it. I know that you have to be experience to get a job as plumber. How long did it take you to complete the training and at the end what did you get. I have just completed Module 12. Please provide some suggestion. Regards

 

[Kams82]

Hi Padam

I have recently submitted assignment 9 and am waiting to get codes to move on to assignment 10. What I find difficult is balancing the course when I get a job. When I am not working I get through the course no problem, when I am offered a job then it's a little difficult, but still finding work in plumbing shouldn't be difficult if you have family or friends who work as plumbers that is a good place to start gaining experience once you are confident you can then work for yourself. Another idea I have is if you know people that have problems around there house with plumbing you can opt to try fixing their problem if they know you do a good job that's where word of mouth comes in and they can recommend you for potential jobs that they may know about in there social circle.

Kams.

 

[mozza]

Cheers stu, good idea thanks for the advice.

 

[Kams82]

Does anyone have the career progression flow chart that is given when registered on to T4TS course Please let me know I need it.

 

[tamz]

Probably goes something like this.

Give us yer cash......thanks
Do the course
Apply and be rejected for 200+ job opportunities.

Don't worry Plan B
Go self employed with a shiny web site........(we'll show you how because we know you will need it)
Try to stick at it for a while but can't make ends meet

Plan C, you are on your own
Change careers and put your gear on ebay to help with the payments.

Bit of a joke take but reality for many.

 

[fuzzy]

Probably goes something like this.

Give us yer cash......thanks
Do the course
Apply and be rejected for 200+ job opportunities.

Don't worry Plan B
Go self employed with a shiny web site........(we'll show you how because we know you will need it)
Try to stick at it for a while but can't make ends meet

Plan C, you are on your own
Change careers and put your gear on ebay to help with the payments.

Bit of a joke take but reality for many.

difficult reading but true for many

 

[Kams82]

please pass this on beware of train4trade skills its great while you are studying at home which cost them nothing,but trying to get a practical is impossible i just keep getting fobbed off been trying from august2011 and my practical for 1st 2weeks is april 2012,so i am trying to finish with course.everything the salesman said is bull**** please be wary and pass this on to anyone looking to waste 6grand.

Hey I think the person whom you dealt with may not know anything, When I done my practical for week 1 it was in september but I later delayed it until October anyway, when I got in touch with t4ts about my practical for week 1 they told me that If I wanted to get the practicals out of the way quickly Hartlebury is the centre to go to because they have bookings all the time. When I booked week one I asked about availability at a centre near me theyre response was if I wanted to go luton then I wont get a date till December anyways I done week in october and completed week 2 weeks ago. In week 1 all you do is soldering and make stuff out of diagrams that they give you. Week 2 is the same but the difference is you make diagrams that are going to be for hot and cold water copper pipes. Week 2 you also get a task for guttering and last but not least you also need to do write ups for the tasks. Also I would say that luton is the better centre because its near the train station and students generally get more help when they ask also they have 2 tutors. Hartlebury is a good centre too but because of the location its half an hour from the trainstation by walk.

 

[student plumber]

Does anyone have the career progression flow chart that is given when registered on to T4TS course Please let me know I need it.

Don't know anything about that. But I think Tamz is spot on esp on plan B.

 

[student plumber]

Reading about Water Regs I think on Mod 5. So bought Water Regulations Guide, Hot and Cold Water Supply, Hienneman Plumbing level 2, Hienneman Revision Guide, Hienneman Dictionary, Building Regulations download, HASAWA 1974 countless free incomplete downloads, do Pegler website tests, internet research, forums. I have the opinion rightly or wrongly someone might throw a spanner in the works or change an exam so at the very least I should be able to answer in part. I imagine they are multiple choice which is easier.