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Being late is unnacceptable......
Unless im the one thats late in which case its perfectly fine.
Unless im the one thats late in which case its perfectly fine.
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Kids these days get life handed to them on a plate. I don't subscribe to that school of thought.
I won't teach a kid unless he shows an interest and is always asking me relevant questions, and then I'll do everything to help them learn. I never give a straight answer either. I guide them into working it out for themselves.
If they're not interested why should I waste my time and effort?
You will go far young fella you seem to have the right idea well done...regards Turnpin :smile5:I've just finished my level 2 and just started level 3, I'm on £100 per week for around 45-50 hours per week. I've not once complained about my wages once ,I've thought of asking for a pay rise but I've not got the guts. when we are on boiler swaps my job is to drain down, take the old boiler off why my boss is at the merchants getting the new one, then i hang the new one and pipe it up and do the electrics why he's doing the flue and condensate. from the day i stated i put away £15 per week to buy tools. I've just bought a van out of my own money. i use that to do small jobs for him. one thing i do is take home the old boilers and weigh them in we used only give them scrap men anyway i get about £18 per boiler if i strip them down.
By the way I'm 18 and if I'm late i get a warning and if I'm late twice i would probably see the door.
my last one i had for a while was late up, on the phone and smoking, final straw was when he was away on his phone smoking despite his final warning and I had finished the job, so I went home (3/4 hour drive). His mommy was furious with me as she had to go collect the 18 yr old ****, but I wasnt to worried as he no longer had a job. I never bothered with them again.
Sack him
Here you go then, cos when I was a lad…….. of just turned 16 my weeks money as an apprentice plumber at Matthew Hall was £19.50 & "I had to pay mill owner for permission to come to work" oops sorry slipped into Monty python again.Lol the voice of compassion.
For the first year I was on £30 a week then I got a rise to £35 a week the second year. I was told that in the olden days the apprentices family paid the plumber! I have no idea if that was true or not? If you are paying him £3.30p an hour for 40 hours a week you could give him a very generous pay rise twice the rate of inflation of 3% and it would cost you less than a fiver a week extra! Then beast the little scrote :lol:
I've just finished my level 2 and just started level 3, I'm on £100 per week for around 45-50 hours per week. I've not once complained about my wages once ,I've thought of asking for a pay rise but I've not got the guts. when we are on boiler swaps my job is to drain down, take the old boiler off why my boss is at the merchants getting the new one, then i hang the new one and pipe it up and do the electrics why he's doing the flue and condensate. from the day i stated i put away £15 per week to buy tools. I've just bought a van out of my own money. i use that to do small jobs for him. one thing i do is take home the old boilers and weigh them in we used only give them scrap men anyway i get about £18 per boiler if i strip them down.
By the way I'm 18 and if I'm late i get a warning and if I'm late twice i would probably see the door.
So what you are saying cr0ft is that their apprenticeship last for just one year then?Look on the bright side, at least you haven't had an apprentice ask you for a pay rise after 1 week!!!
Every apprentice who joins my business will be on minimum apprentice rate plus 20p per hour for the whole of their first year.
After the first year they have to go on minimum wage (unless they are under 19 in which case they get a bit longer to prove their worth). The government stipulate this and it puts a bit of pressure on apprentices to learn very quickly in the first year. If they can't do small jobs on their own at this point, they aren't worth paying minimum wage as far as my business is concerned. I would then let them go at this point.
Assuming they can be left to do small jobs after the first year, their pay is determined based on what they can earn the business in a day. I allow a 30% profit margin for the business in this, take off employer on-costs and then get what their wage should be from that. This is reviewed annually.
Just an update. I went to pick him up this morning ready to have a chat with him about how he is really progressing and not how he thinks he is. Sat outside his house for 8 mins after texting him telling him I was outside ( I also told him yesterday what time I would be picking him up), so I drove off to the job. I got a text 5 minutes later asking where I was haha. My reply was I am at work where you should be, I waited for you and you never showed. I will give him a chance tomorrow to explain himself, but the writing could be on the wall for him. I could not make it any easier for him to get to work picking him up at his front door every day, if you cant be ready for the time I say then you aren't worth me spending any time on.
I blame the parents don't you.
I blame the parents don't you.
To a degree but you teach em all the manners and good intentions under the sun but when they go to school and pick up other kids bad habits some of em forget everything you've taught them and you have to start all.over again it seems sometimes